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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 2082504" data-attributes="member: 15999"><p>I've probably swung a baseball bat five thousand times and seen a bat swung fifty thousand times more. Exactly how many times have you seen a baseball player injure himself with his own bat to <em>anywhere near </em> the severity of injury that would be inflicted if he were swinging at another person with intent to injure?</p><p>It's not possible. Given the grip on the bat, the range of motions needed to inflict injury, a baseball player isn't going to hit himself with the bat as hard as he could hit someone else.</p><p>Bad example? Okay, how about this. How could a warrior with a longspear injure himself with his weapon? He doesn't even threaten the space he's in. The spearpoint is six to ten feet away. In both cases, there are aspects to how the weapon is used that make damaging oneself <em>with the weapon as if it were an actual attack</em> illogical.</p><p>I've also shot bows and rifles thousands of times each (about 100 days at summer camp as a kid? Sounds about right). The only self-injury would be fletching cuts, which are not comparable to actually being shot with an arrow. None of this is actual combat, but combat to a trained warrior should be what practice is to me.</p><p></p><p>"Injure self" in the sense of sprained ankle makes some sense if it happens very rarely. Losing one's grip on one's weapon, possible once in a few thousand swings for someone proficient in the weapon, but it should not outpace active disarms. "Hit self with weapon" seems ludicrous and unnecessarily humiliating. </p><p></p><p>Now, a totally unskilled person trying to use a two-headed weapon, yes, they deserve to disembowel themselves with their Darth Maul 2-bladed sword.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 2082504, member: 15999"] I've probably swung a baseball bat five thousand times and seen a bat swung fifty thousand times more. Exactly how many times have you seen a baseball player injure himself with his own bat to [I]anywhere near [/I] the severity of injury that would be inflicted if he were swinging at another person with intent to injure? It's not possible. Given the grip on the bat, the range of motions needed to inflict injury, a baseball player isn't going to hit himself with the bat as hard as he could hit someone else. Bad example? Okay, how about this. How could a warrior with a longspear injure himself with his weapon? He doesn't even threaten the space he's in. The spearpoint is six to ten feet away. In both cases, there are aspects to how the weapon is used that make damaging oneself [I]with the weapon as if it were an actual attack[/I] illogical. I've also shot bows and rifles thousands of times each (about 100 days at summer camp as a kid? Sounds about right). The only self-injury would be fletching cuts, which are not comparable to actually being shot with an arrow. None of this is actual combat, but combat to a trained warrior should be what practice is to me. "Injure self" in the sense of sprained ankle makes some sense if it happens very rarely. Losing one's grip on one's weapon, possible once in a few thousand swings for someone proficient in the weapon, but it should not outpace active disarms. "Hit self with weapon" seems ludicrous and unnecessarily humiliating. Now, a totally unskilled person trying to use a two-headed weapon, yes, they deserve to disembowel themselves with their Darth Maul 2-bladed sword. [/QUOTE]
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