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Fun With Templates #6: The Ling (Laiceps Yad Sdrawkcab)
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<blockquote data-quote="SpiralBound" data-source="post: 2980558" data-attributes="member: 8396"><p>I really like these guys, kinda like "Lucy" for RPGs! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I do have a few questions though...</p><p></p><p>1) Why the odd weapon choice? Isn't a longsword rather, um, long? These guys averaging 2' 10" or 2' 11" inches tall. I have wooden rulers taller than these guys! And you have them swinging around a massive (to them) hunk of metal? Kinda seems odd... Heck, forget thesize thing for a minute, why a sword at all? These guys live deep in the forest, melting from sight... A sword would be extremely impractical for them. To effectively use a sword, you need swinging room like is readily available in the open battlefield. In a forest you'd never have enough room to really gain the full use of this kind of weapon. Naw, what these guys need are bows (not crossbows which are more complicated, slower to use, and can break), blowguns (an excellent medium range weapon that is ideally suited to being used within the cover so amply available in the woods), and for melee combat, knives and spears. Knives don't need as much room, but spears are where it's really at for forest combat. You can keep the opponent at a distance, and the stabbing motions in using it are better suited to an environment where you don't have much swinging room. Plus, a spear can be thrown, and also used for hunting inbetween actual combat situations. I can see some tribal Ling warrior being given a sword, and it gets used to dig trenches or is kept at the village for cutting up goat haunches or something, but not carried into the confining terrain of forest underbrush.</p><p></p><p>2) Studded leather? That stuff is heavy and restricting. Again, I find it hard to picture a small woodland creature preferring this form of armor. Given their racial dex bonus and their bonuses to Climb, Jump, Listen, and Move Silently, +4 bonus on Hide checks, and their combined +6 save vs. fear. I would think that a) they'd consider wearing hearvy protective armor a sign of fear (probably a BIG no-no in their society) and b) they'd much prefer wearing natural camoflage and surprise attacking their enemies with several quick, dex-reliant attacks, and then disappearing again. I would expect their favoured attack method would be to use multiple "attack and fade" maneuvers, gradually weakening their opponent until they could close in for the kill, or perhaps even a swarm attack, physically overwhelming them with numbers. Using sword and shield with studded leather armor feels too... "trained medieval soldier on the open field of war, executing careful battle maneuvers" and doesn't really seem (IMHO) to fit the "tiny, hairy humanoids who live reclusively in deep wilderness and isolation, leading lives of intense bravery" that you outline above.</p><p></p><p>3) Why all the save bonuses? I'm not opposed to them, but I am curious as to why you gave them out. A plus 2 to all saves and a further plus 4 vs. fear is significant, and obviously not randomly assigned, so I was just wondering why?</p><p></p><p>4) Why no bonuses to making, using and disarming traps? I would think that these guys would LOVE things like pit traps, spear traps, deadfall traps, net traps, etc. I would so totally have them trap the bejeebus out of their homelands. Traps are an excellent way to soften up the biggun's before you finish them off! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> These guys don't have any Int penalties, so I would think that they're mor than bright enough to protect themselves from all the bigger races using ambushes and traps.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, let me repeat my opening sentiment. I like your Ling! Don't let all my questions and suggestions above be viewed as a sign that I dislike them. In fact, it is because I like them so much that I'm making the above observations. I genuinely think that my ideas would improve their abilities and better match their flavour. Of course, feel free to disagree with me and point out reasons that support your choices in armor, weapons, fighting tactics and various other abilities. After all, they're YOUR creation! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SpiralBound, post: 2980558, member: 8396"] I really like these guys, kinda like "Lucy" for RPGs! :D I do have a few questions though... 1) Why the odd weapon choice? Isn't a longsword rather, um, long? These guys averaging 2' 10" or 2' 11" inches tall. I have wooden rulers taller than these guys! And you have them swinging around a massive (to them) hunk of metal? Kinda seems odd... Heck, forget thesize thing for a minute, why a sword at all? These guys live deep in the forest, melting from sight... A sword would be extremely impractical for them. To effectively use a sword, you need swinging room like is readily available in the open battlefield. In a forest you'd never have enough room to really gain the full use of this kind of weapon. Naw, what these guys need are bows (not crossbows which are more complicated, slower to use, and can break), blowguns (an excellent medium range weapon that is ideally suited to being used within the cover so amply available in the woods), and for melee combat, knives and spears. Knives don't need as much room, but spears are where it's really at for forest combat. You can keep the opponent at a distance, and the stabbing motions in using it are better suited to an environment where you don't have much swinging room. Plus, a spear can be thrown, and also used for hunting inbetween actual combat situations. I can see some tribal Ling warrior being given a sword, and it gets used to dig trenches or is kept at the village for cutting up goat haunches or something, but not carried into the confining terrain of forest underbrush. 2) Studded leather? That stuff is heavy and restricting. Again, I find it hard to picture a small woodland creature preferring this form of armor. Given their racial dex bonus and their bonuses to Climb, Jump, Listen, and Move Silently, +4 bonus on Hide checks, and their combined +6 save vs. fear. I would think that a) they'd consider wearing hearvy protective armor a sign of fear (probably a BIG no-no in their society) and b) they'd much prefer wearing natural camoflage and surprise attacking their enemies with several quick, dex-reliant attacks, and then disappearing again. I would expect their favoured attack method would be to use multiple "attack and fade" maneuvers, gradually weakening their opponent until they could close in for the kill, or perhaps even a swarm attack, physically overwhelming them with numbers. Using sword and shield with studded leather armor feels too... "trained medieval soldier on the open field of war, executing careful battle maneuvers" and doesn't really seem (IMHO) to fit the "tiny, hairy humanoids who live reclusively in deep wilderness and isolation, leading lives of intense bravery" that you outline above. 3) Why all the save bonuses? I'm not opposed to them, but I am curious as to why you gave them out. A plus 2 to all saves and a further plus 4 vs. fear is significant, and obviously not randomly assigned, so I was just wondering why? 4) Why no bonuses to making, using and disarming traps? I would think that these guys would LOVE things like pit traps, spear traps, deadfall traps, net traps, etc. I would so totally have them trap the bejeebus out of their homelands. Traps are an excellent way to soften up the biggun's before you finish them off! ;) These guys don't have any Int penalties, so I would think that they're mor than bright enough to protect themselves from all the bigger races using ambushes and traps. Lastly, let me repeat my opening sentiment. I like your Ling! Don't let all my questions and suggestions above be viewed as a sign that I dislike them. In fact, it is because I like them so much that I'm making the above observations. I genuinely think that my ideas would improve their abilities and better match their flavour. Of course, feel free to disagree with me and point out reasons that support your choices in armor, weapons, fighting tactics and various other abilities. After all, they're YOUR creation! :D [/QUOTE]
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