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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7900861" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>Or even franchises. We saw this with virtually every D&D setting and other franchises such as Star Trek/Wars.</p><p></p><p>That is crash TV erm crash RPG. Crash RPG is when someone invents something that people like for whatever reason. A future author takes over and what do they do? Some combination of.</p><p></p><p>1. Kill off existing characters</p><p></p><p>2. Blow something up. A big war, world shaking event or literally blowing the world up.</p><p></p><p>3. Something involving time jumps/travel.</p><p></p><p>4. New characters heavily handed replace the old.</p><p></p><p>TSR was notorious for this. Last seen during 4E and the Realms. Apart from being a bad idea to begin with it often leads to an arms race between authors as they try to top each other.</p><p></p><p>And of course if you object you get called toxic. I suppose blowing something up is an easy story to write.</p><p></p><p>My default position for setting if they ever get redone us to go back to the original release/key release tied to the setting.</p><p></p><p>This means War if the Lance for Dragonlance,the grey box for FR, 1991 boxed set for Darksun.</p><p></p><p>This is because it's simple and doesn't invalidate anything. If you want to blow the world up that's not a problem.</p><p></p><p>But but but what about the new generation? They already have their new stuff. I'm not a big fan of Ravenloft but I don't expect them to change Ravenloft to appeal to me.</p><p></p><p>There's not much in old settings that won't on the surface appeal to new players. Dragonlance for example is classic good vs evil. Not everything will appeal to everyone or maybe execution is slightly off but that's fine.</p><p></p><p>But but but what if it doesn't sell? Basically anything with the words D&D on it atm is going to sell well. Some of those settings have been buried since the 90s who knows how a well done update will do. In talking about the bigger settings,not say Birthright.</p><p></p><p>But but but it splits the D&D playerbase. In the 90s that was true as each setting got flow on support adventures, novels, splat material. These days it's more or less one and done there's no flow in Ravnica support.</p><p></p><p>Even a map folio release with old maps reprinted would have been useful as PDFs don't work well in that regard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7900861, member: 6716779"] Or even franchises. We saw this with virtually every D&D setting and other franchises such as Star Trek/Wars. That is crash TV erm crash RPG. Crash RPG is when someone invents something that people like for whatever reason. A future author takes over and what do they do? Some combination of. 1. Kill off existing characters 2. Blow something up. A big war, world shaking event or literally blowing the world up. 3. Something involving time jumps/travel. 4. New characters heavily handed replace the old. TSR was notorious for this. Last seen during 4E and the Realms. Apart from being a bad idea to begin with it often leads to an arms race between authors as they try to top each other. And of course if you object you get called toxic. I suppose blowing something up is an easy story to write. My default position for setting if they ever get redone us to go back to the original release/key release tied to the setting. This means War if the Lance for Dragonlance,the grey box for FR, 1991 boxed set for Darksun. This is because it's simple and doesn't invalidate anything. If you want to blow the world up that's not a problem. But but but what about the new generation? They already have their new stuff. I'm not a big fan of Ravenloft but I don't expect them to change Ravenloft to appeal to me. There's not much in old settings that won't on the surface appeal to new players. Dragonlance for example is classic good vs evil. Not everything will appeal to everyone or maybe execution is slightly off but that's fine. But but but what if it doesn't sell? Basically anything with the words D&D on it atm is going to sell well. Some of those settings have been buried since the 90s who knows how a well done update will do. In talking about the bigger settings,not say Birthright. But but but it splits the D&D playerbase. In the 90s that was true as each setting got flow on support adventures, novels, splat material. These days it's more or less one and done there's no flow in Ravnica support. Even a map folio release with old maps reprinted would have been useful as PDFs don't work well in that regard. [/QUOTE]
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