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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 230632" data-attributes="member: 5171">Actually, a bard/paladin works fine.If a bard becomes lawful, he loses NOTHING.  He just can't advance as a bard anymore.So take Bard to 5th or 6th level, Atone, switch to Lawful, and Paladin the rest of the way.A brd5/pal5 has:LoreBase saves of +5/+5/+5, before ability score bonuses or Divine GraceImmunity to FearAbility to turn undead, although not hugely2nd level Bard Spells1st level Paladin SpellsBardsongs (fewer times per day, but by buying Perform cross class, you can still get it up to the level to inspire greatness and such)Bard/Paladin is GREAT.  Charisma isn't a guilty pleasure anymore for the paladin -- it's direct benefit to bard spells, Diplomacy and similar skills, turning, AND saves.  Huge.-Tacky</blockquote>