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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 5145915" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>To be fair, MageKnight had its share of problems <em>before</em> 2.0. It's a salutary lesson in how not to run a CMG. Yes, Balance is important... and if the Limited Edition figures you get for winning tournaments are better than the regular figures... well, then you get a vicious cycle.</p><p></p><p>The property that was much better handled was HeroClix, and that continues today with another company.</p><p></p><p>My own feeling is that D&D Miniatures Skirmish was in decline before DDM2. The game worked very well within a certain range of point values, but when smaller or bigger point-value figures needed to be made (due ot the correspondence with D&D 3E), then problems emerged. However. DDM2 didn't help.</p><p></p><p>However, any problems with the Skirmish side were - to my mind - a minor part of the problem with DDM; the Skirmish game was a nice addition to the minis, but the chief purpose was for the D&D RPG. So, when the D&D RPGers slowed down their purchases, the entire line suffered.</p><p></p><p>I know that towards the end of my major days of buying DDM, I was approaching saturation level, and I was getting very irritated at some of the rarity decisions that were being made; I was extremely annoyed when new (important) minis appeared in the huge packs at the uncommon levels. The cost get a "play set" was just too much. Then there were the problems with scale...</p><p></p><p>However, all of those problems were minor when compared to one big fact: the cost of DDM packs had gone up significantly. Harbinger was extremely reasonable; unsustainably so, I expect. However, it was what we judged new packs by.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 5145915, member: 3586"] To be fair, MageKnight had its share of problems [i]before[/i] 2.0. It's a salutary lesson in how not to run a CMG. Yes, Balance is important... and if the Limited Edition figures you get for winning tournaments are better than the regular figures... well, then you get a vicious cycle. The property that was much better handled was HeroClix, and that continues today with another company. My own feeling is that D&D Miniatures Skirmish was in decline before DDM2. The game worked very well within a certain range of point values, but when smaller or bigger point-value figures needed to be made (due ot the correspondence with D&D 3E), then problems emerged. However. DDM2 didn't help. However, any problems with the Skirmish side were - to my mind - a minor part of the problem with DDM; the Skirmish game was a nice addition to the minis, but the chief purpose was for the D&D RPG. So, when the D&D RPGers slowed down their purchases, the entire line suffered. I know that towards the end of my major days of buying DDM, I was approaching saturation level, and I was getting very irritated at some of the rarity decisions that were being made; I was extremely annoyed when new (important) minis appeared in the huge packs at the uncommon levels. The cost get a "play set" was just too much. Then there were the problems with scale... However, all of those problems were minor when compared to one big fact: the cost of DDM packs had gone up significantly. Harbinger was extremely reasonable; unsustainably so, I expect. However, it was what we judged new packs by. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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