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<blockquote data-quote="MrGrenadine" data-source="post: 5296716" data-attributes="member: 62619"><p>Yeah, this thread is pretty incredible. "Someone who we think is cool agrees with our opinion, so now we KNOW our opinion is right." And the posts about people worrying about WotC destroying their old books? Hilarious! (the first hundred or so times, anyway.)</p><p></p><p>Listen, I think the Penny Arcade guys are terrific, too. And I love that they love the game as much as I do, and are talking it up and getting other folks excited about it. </p><p></p><p>But the fact that Gabe thinks Essentials isn't a new version is just an opinion, like any other opinion.</p><p></p><p>Here's the facts: Essentials is not 4.5, because WotC has said its not 4.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>However, whether or not Essentials is enough of a evolution of the system to warrant being called 4.x is <em>completely up for discussion</em>, with sane, reasonable people on both sides of the issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So why can't we discuss the issue in a sane and reasonable way? Probably because, rather than actually listen and debate the merits of both points of view, its just more fun to loudly claim victory and try to make the opposing opinion seem ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>Its getting tiring.</p><p></p><p></p><p>p.s. Full disclosure: I play 4e. I love what I've read about Essentials so far. And I do think, over time, as more Essentials stuff is added, it will be a big enough evolution to warrant a 4.x tag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrGrenadine, post: 5296716, member: 62619"] Yeah, this thread is pretty incredible. "Someone who we think is cool agrees with our opinion, so now we KNOW our opinion is right." And the posts about people worrying about WotC destroying their old books? Hilarious! (the first hundred or so times, anyway.) Listen, I think the Penny Arcade guys are terrific, too. And I love that they love the game as much as I do, and are talking it up and getting other folks excited about it. But the fact that Gabe thinks Essentials isn't a new version is just an opinion, like any other opinion. Here's the facts: Essentials is not 4.5, because WotC has said its not 4.5. However, whether or not Essentials is enough of a evolution of the system to warrant being called 4.x is [I]completely up for discussion[/I], with sane, reasonable people on both sides of the issue. So why can't we discuss the issue in a sane and reasonable way? Probably because, rather than actually listen and debate the merits of both points of view, its just more fun to loudly claim victory and try to make the opposing opinion seem ridiculous. Its getting tiring. p.s. Full disclosure: I play 4e. I love what I've read about Essentials so far. And I do think, over time, as more Essentials stuff is added, it will be a big enough evolution to warrant a 4.x tag. [/QUOTE]
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