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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5297396" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>Let's be fair here: We're already at this point. If you think essentials changes the fact the original PHB is made out of swiss cheese even before anything essentials changes, you're mistaken. It might add to the swiss cheese factor, but in the end the PHB has suffered the most errata and it clearly shows. Without essentials, the PHB has already taken a massive amount of errata to numerous areas, like skills, feats, powers, conditions and similar. I mean, what do you think essentials can change that will make the original PHB even worse? In fact, if they're going to do something like essentials a reprint of the original PHB with rules updates was already firmly warranted and so we're not terribly worse off.</p><p></p><p>Some changes I admit don't need to be made, like magic missile and it's the one most frequently picked on. But it's a <em>single</em> example and in reality they are hardly changing things willy nilly for the sake of it. Where they have made great changes, they are compartmentalized into builds like the knight, thief and slayer. Builds that are utterly ignorable and don't do a <em>single</em> thing to the original classes.</p><p></p><p>Now if it turns out they have done something stupid like errata'ing marks out of the game or something with essentials then I will criticize them. But based on what I know about essentials it's no worse than the errata process they have been doing for a while now anyway. This is an evolving game, not everyone has to like that concept or even want to play a game that has errata - but I for one appreciate they are willing to listen, learn and update things. They could always throw the baby out with the bath-water and just dump everything for a straight new edition. But this way is far better and most books, <em>most</em> books released in 4E are still relevant now despite how long ago they were published.</p><p></p><p>The core original three books are by far the ones begging most for an update IMO. Even then, I can live with things because the CB keeps everything up to date and the rules compendium will solve my other complaints.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5297396, member: 78116"] Let's be fair here: We're already at this point. If you think essentials changes the fact the original PHB is made out of swiss cheese even before anything essentials changes, you're mistaken. It might add to the swiss cheese factor, but in the end the PHB has suffered the most errata and it clearly shows. Without essentials, the PHB has already taken a massive amount of errata to numerous areas, like skills, feats, powers, conditions and similar. I mean, what do you think essentials can change that will make the original PHB even worse? In fact, if they're going to do something like essentials a reprint of the original PHB with rules updates was already firmly warranted and so we're not terribly worse off. Some changes I admit don't need to be made, like magic missile and it's the one most frequently picked on. But it's a [i]single[/i] example and in reality they are hardly changing things willy nilly for the sake of it. Where they have made great changes, they are compartmentalized into builds like the knight, thief and slayer. Builds that are utterly ignorable and don't do a [i]single[/i] thing to the original classes. Now if it turns out they have done something stupid like errata'ing marks out of the game or something with essentials then I will criticize them. But based on what I know about essentials it's no worse than the errata process they have been doing for a while now anyway. This is an evolving game, not everyone has to like that concept or even want to play a game that has errata - but I for one appreciate they are willing to listen, learn and update things. They could always throw the baby out with the bath-water and just dump everything for a straight new edition. But this way is far better and most books, [i]most[/i] books released in 4E are still relevant now despite how long ago they were published. The core original three books are by far the ones begging most for an update IMO. Even then, I can live with things because the CB keeps everything up to date and the rules compendium will solve my other complaints. [/QUOTE]
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