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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5297428" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>Yes, they are getting assorted by what they do and not by tier. This is a fantastic, logical change and doesn't alter the fact the other feats <em>are going nowhere</em>. Even the much maligned "tax feats" like epic defense feats still have their place. Epic will for example will sit alongside superior will for those builds unable to get the wisdom or charisma required to get superior will.</p><p></p><p>In fact, I hope the CB updates everything to the new format. So PCs can look through "Attack feats" and "Defense" feats. The single most painful thing in all of 4E as a DM is watching players get bogged down looking for feats for their character - Let's be honest here too, in mostly huge sea of pure crap - for something that's useful. Organizing by tier is nowhere near as efficient as by what the feat actually does. </p><p></p><p>I am sure a lot of feats will be made less useful or relevant by feats introduced in essentials. If the new feats are better, more interesting and reduce arguments about "taxpertise" among other things I am actually going to be a happier DM. </p><p></p><p>The point was is redoing feats in this manner "pointless" or just change for the sake of changing something - or - is it a legitimate point that will improve the game?</p><p></p><p>Because I'm sorry, I can't get outraged over logical changes that from everything I understand can only improve the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5297428, member: 78116"] Yes, they are getting assorted by what they do and not by tier. This is a fantastic, logical change and doesn't alter the fact the other feats [i]are going nowhere[/i]. Even the much maligned "tax feats" like epic defense feats still have their place. Epic will for example will sit alongside superior will for those builds unable to get the wisdom or charisma required to get superior will. In fact, I hope the CB updates everything to the new format. So PCs can look through "Attack feats" and "Defense" feats. The single most painful thing in all of 4E as a DM is watching players get bogged down looking for feats for their character - Let's be honest here too, in mostly huge sea of pure crap - for something that's useful. Organizing by tier is nowhere near as efficient as by what the feat actually does. I am sure a lot of feats will be made less useful or relevant by feats introduced in essentials. If the new feats are better, more interesting and reduce arguments about "taxpertise" among other things I am actually going to be a happier DM. The point was is redoing feats in this manner "pointless" or just change for the sake of changing something - or - is it a legitimate point that will improve the game? Because I'm sorry, I can't get outraged over logical changes that from everything I understand can only improve the game. [/QUOTE]
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