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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1097179" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Well, given that NPCs don't <em>have</em> ECL, the issue is somewhat irrelevant. You'd actually have to determine on a case-by-case basis whether given monsters qualify for epic feats; I'd actually use CR, not HD, as the basis for that, because otherwise there can be some very silly examples of low-CR monsters qualifying for epic feats. According to the WotC "official ruling" you cite, an elder fire elemental (CR 11), for instance, qualifies to select at least two epic feats, which is a worse example than your frost giant. </p><p></p><p>As to selecting [Epic] feats and advancing PrCs beyond 10th level: No, they're not "level-dependent benefits"; they're ECL-dependent benefits, in this case, at least according to the sidebar. </p><p></p><p>As to Table 1-2: Well, yes. This is where you have to use common sense, since the sidebar clearly errs in failing to separate out the ECL-relevant part of Table 1-2 (i.e., the XP column) from the ECL non-relevant parts (the max skills, feats, and ability increases). Table 1-2 is just a continuation of the PHB tables for character level up to 20th. LA never counted up to 20th level for determining when a creature's max skill ranks, character level feats, and ability score increases rose or accrued, so there's no reason it should after 20th level. But sure, I concede this. I simply pointed out that it doesn't make any sense, viz. my duergar example above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1097179, member: 1757"] Well, given that NPCs don't [i]have[/i] ECL, the issue is somewhat irrelevant. You'd actually have to determine on a case-by-case basis whether given monsters qualify for epic feats; I'd actually use CR, not HD, as the basis for that, because otherwise there can be some very silly examples of low-CR monsters qualifying for epic feats. According to the WotC "official ruling" you cite, an elder fire elemental (CR 11), for instance, qualifies to select at least two epic feats, which is a worse example than your frost giant. As to selecting [Epic] feats and advancing PrCs beyond 10th level: No, they're not "level-dependent benefits"; they're ECL-dependent benefits, in this case, at least according to the sidebar. As to Table 1-2: Well, yes. This is where you have to use common sense, since the sidebar clearly errs in failing to separate out the ECL-relevant part of Table 1-2 (i.e., the XP column) from the ECL non-relevant parts (the max skills, feats, and ability increases). Table 1-2 is just a continuation of the PHB tables for character level up to 20th. LA never counted up to 20th level for determining when a creature's max skill ranks, character level feats, and ability score increases rose or accrued, so there's no reason it should after 20th level. But sure, I concede this. I simply pointed out that it doesn't make any sense, viz. my duergar example above. [/QUOTE]
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