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Gale Force 9 Sues WotC [Updated]
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<blockquote data-quote="SiCK_Boy" data-source="post: 8132861" data-attributes="member: 7026447"><p>We don't have statements from each side. We have a statement from Gf9 that tells us what WotC said / did (which could be, theoretically, false, but I doubt it).</p><p></p><p>If you read the full text of the Gf9 claim, it states that WotC notified them on Nov. 9th 2020 that they (WotC) wanted to put a stop to their contract with Gf9 because of alleged breaches related to the Korean and the French translation subcontractors.</p><p></p><p>But if you read further, you'll see that the issue with the Korean subcontractor all relates to products they put on the market in 2019. It took WotC one year to determine that this issue warranted putting a stop to their agreement with Gf9? And never during that year did they raise concerns with Gf9?</p><p></p><p>It's even more farcical in regards to the French subcontractor. That company (Black Book) released its Heroes & Dragons game (a french version of the SRD) in 2016. By the time WotC and Gf9 signed their agreement for translations in 2017, Heroes & Dragons was already out. Yet not only did WotC do nothing against Black Book at the time (or since - at least again based on the claim of Gf9), they (WotC) approved Black Book as the subcontractor for the French translation... and now they come along almost 4 years later and want to use that situation as an excuse to get out of the agreement with Gf9?</p><p></p><p>The whole thing smacks of foul play by WotC. They just didn't want to wait another year for their deal with Gf9 to expire (or pay whatever penalty was included in the deal for ending it early), and instead decided to stonewall them to prevent the release of new products while at the same time declaring them in breach of their agreement.</p><p></p><p>Obviously, we have yet to hear from WotC on their perspective on these events, but it's hard to imagine that so many facts would have been distorted or invented by Gf9. We probably will never hear from WotC, but the best indications of how solid a case Gf9 has will be the value of the reparation they get out of their out-of-court settlements, and the number of WotC managers / highers up (or lawyers) who lose their jobs in the coming months over this story.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SiCK_Boy, post: 8132861, member: 7026447"] We don't have statements from each side. We have a statement from Gf9 that tells us what WotC said / did (which could be, theoretically, false, but I doubt it). If you read the full text of the Gf9 claim, it states that WotC notified them on Nov. 9th 2020 that they (WotC) wanted to put a stop to their contract with Gf9 because of alleged breaches related to the Korean and the French translation subcontractors. But if you read further, you'll see that the issue with the Korean subcontractor all relates to products they put on the market in 2019. It took WotC one year to determine that this issue warranted putting a stop to their agreement with Gf9? And never during that year did they raise concerns with Gf9? It's even more farcical in regards to the French subcontractor. That company (Black Book) released its Heroes & Dragons game (a french version of the SRD) in 2016. By the time WotC and Gf9 signed their agreement for translations in 2017, Heroes & Dragons was already out. Yet not only did WotC do nothing against Black Book at the time (or since - at least again based on the claim of Gf9), they (WotC) approved Black Book as the subcontractor for the French translation... and now they come along almost 4 years later and want to use that situation as an excuse to get out of the agreement with Gf9? The whole thing smacks of foul play by WotC. They just didn't want to wait another year for their deal with Gf9 to expire (or pay whatever penalty was included in the deal for ending it early), and instead decided to stonewall them to prevent the release of new products while at the same time declaring them in breach of their agreement. Obviously, we have yet to hear from WotC on their perspective on these events, but it's hard to imagine that so many facts would have been distorted or invented by Gf9. We probably will never hear from WotC, but the best indications of how solid a case Gf9 has will be the value of the reparation they get out of their out-of-court settlements, and the number of WotC managers / highers up (or lawyers) who lose their jobs in the coming months over this story. [/QUOTE]
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