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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5350662" data-attributes="member: 710">I am not sure I really count our Online Red Box experiences as that, as we were only 3 players + DM. The adventure in the Red Box was murder for us. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But it didn't seem related to the Essentials stuff. I think what we missed most was a Leader, and that was not the Red Box' or Essentials' fault. Anyway, even with a fourth player playing a healer, some of the encounters seemed to hard. It's Irontooth all over again.I can say that in our experience, we typically managed to do (using mostly WotC adventures) a lot of encounters in a single adventuring day if the group uses one to two dailies per encounter. I think daily powers are particularly important the less in-combat healing you have available. You need that extra damage output, control and healing.Having healing surges is great for the day, but if you got only your Second Wind and one healing power, it doesn't cut it for harder encounters, sometimes not even for weaker ones. And while some powers seem more impressive (and maybe are), a fighters innocent reliable 2[W] power that allows him to spend a healing surge is a significant resource. Not as flashy as a sphere of fire, but it means he can take 1 or 2 extra hits or possibly last 1 or 2 extra rounds. I am now siding more with the verdict that Essentials will overall retain the game balance in regards to the game balance, but that an Essential character is just to simple for my tastes - and, to be frank, I think everyone in my group.But I see it as an excellent option to use for the campaigns were we add up secondary characters to the party because we don't have enough player to cover all 4 roles. Adding an Essentials Martial character would be excellent for that. All we need now is a martial leader without dailies. I guess it's time to reactive my House Rule Creation part of my brain. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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