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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3756643" data-attributes="member: 141">Or have speak with dead work, but work it so the legal system doesn't accept information gained by those spells.&nbsp; Because of ways that magically acquired evidence can be tampered with- or maybe it counts as an &quot;illegal search&quot;.&nbsp; Or maybe eyewitness testimony isn't accepted if there is no chance of cross-examination.And if the PCs know who the murderer is, but can't prove it, that's good for the story.&nbsp; Or if they have to figure out the motivation was... that's a good things.&nbsp; Or heck, have some murders that can be solved by speak with dead.&nbsp; Drop in the masked/invisible/disguised villain at some other murder, but let the cleric shine on this one.Having a reputation as being able to easily solve murders can inspire many plot hooks.[edit]&nbsp; But yeah, it changes the kind of stories that can be told.&nbsp; And maybe DMs don't want to tell those kinds of stories.&nbsp; Then it would be a game breaker.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3756643, member: 141"] Or have [i]speak with dead[/i] work, but work it so the legal system doesn't accept information gained by those spells. Because of ways that magically acquired evidence can be tampered with- or maybe it counts as an "illegal search". Or maybe eyewitness testimony isn't accepted if there is no chance of cross-examination. And if the PCs know who the murderer is, but can't prove it, that's good for the story. Or if they have to figure out the motivation was... that's a good things. Or heck, have some murders that can be solved by [i]speak with dead[/i]. Drop in the masked/invisible/disguised villain at some other murder, but let the cleric shine on this one. Having a reputation as being able to easily solve murders can inspire many plot hooks. [edit] But yeah, it changes the kind of stories that can be told. And maybe DMs don't want to tell those kinds of stories. Then it would be a game breaker. [/QUOTE]

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