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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benabik" data-source="post: 3832252" data-attributes="member: 55841">6 BAB, from 6 levels of Skirmisher perhaps? If it was a Controller or a Leader (hope I'm remember roles correctly), perhaps it would only have 3 BAB or something.  And they'll probably list the role of every creature anyway just as part of the "standard" block.The +1 random mod (that I assumed was weapon focus) is a Skirmisher bonus feat?Penalizing melee attacks because the skirmisher "isn't supposed to do that" seems very heavy-handed and pointless (IMNSHO).  Making a role better at X doesn't have to mean making them worse at Y.  Giving a bonus to X makes you better there without killing other options (like Y).  Penalizing Y means that you have to work against that penalty.For a more concrete example, how does it make the Skirmisher stronger (not better numbers, but a better concept, choice, etc) to penalize them because someone got into melee with them?  I think that such a penalty would simply force many people to give their Skirmishers stronger strength so that they don't have such weak melee attacks (especially at low levels where a -1 can be very important).I didn't quite mean that I don't like the mechanic (although I don't).  I meant that I don't favor it as being likely.  It cuts down on customization and doesn't meet the definition of a skirmisher:That doesn't mean ranged combat, just flanking and mobility (meant strategically, not DND mechanics).That's fair enough.</blockquote>

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