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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7981170" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>I've read the Amber books, and the Amber rules. I almost had a brush with Amber, but it never hit actual play. And it might have been because I was too good at bidding.</p><p></p><p>One summer in college we did a 17-18 person camping trip for a week at a state park. We were going to do an Amber one shot one night and we had like 8-10 people interested. So we did a bidding process so we could come up with characters during the afternoon. I seem to remember that there's ranks 1-4 and that's as low as it goes - you can have people tied at rank 4. (Or maybe that was this DM for so many players.) Anyway, with this many players the DM was also being a little funky with bidding. Everyone did a secret bid and spent the points. If you were in the top 4, there was another secret round where you could raise your bid if you wanted to.</p><p></p><p>I knew with this many people bidding you couldn't be in the top 4 for everything so I planned to purposefully lose one and only bid a single point. So the first round we bid, and everyone was getting the feel and I ended up winning, taking 1st rank. The second one comes up, it's more aggressive which I expected from the talk about how I sorta lucked into 1st cheaply (which I did, but also a bit of reading people). And I ended up taking 1st again because I knew I had a big reserve with my plan. Then came a crazy bidding round that I bid my single point, ending up with Rank 4 Psyche. And it was the most expensive round yet, both from seeing the escalation of the earlier rounds plus some people wanted something that wasn't a 4. Got really expensive. Then the last round ... but three rounds of bidding more and more cleaned some out, and others wanted to save enough points to get cool other stuff since they didn't have great ranks, leaving me able to take 1st rank again.</p><p></p><p>That's right, an easily controlled 4th rank psyche with 1st rank everything else. Perfect recipe for GM mayhem.</p><p></p><p>I think I had enough points left to walk the pattern, with taking on some Bad Stuff. Or maybe it was a partial pattern. I don't remember, it was bargain basement time.</p><p></p><p>At the time I was 19 or 20 and felt really cool about how I managed to get all of those 1st ranks. But with only 9 ranks that weren't a 4 up for grabs among 8-10 people, and I had not just a full third of them but the best third of them, I think everyone else may have been less than enthused about their characters. And the game never ended up taking off that night.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7981170, member: 20564"] I've read the Amber books, and the Amber rules. I almost had a brush with Amber, but it never hit actual play. And it might have been because I was too good at bidding. One summer in college we did a 17-18 person camping trip for a week at a state park. We were going to do an Amber one shot one night and we had like 8-10 people interested. So we did a bidding process so we could come up with characters during the afternoon. I seem to remember that there's ranks 1-4 and that's as low as it goes - you can have people tied at rank 4. (Or maybe that was this DM for so many players.) Anyway, with this many players the DM was also being a little funky with bidding. Everyone did a secret bid and spent the points. If you were in the top 4, there was another secret round where you could raise your bid if you wanted to. I knew with this many people bidding you couldn't be in the top 4 for everything so I planned to purposefully lose one and only bid a single point. So the first round we bid, and everyone was getting the feel and I ended up winning, taking 1st rank. The second one comes up, it's more aggressive which I expected from the talk about how I sorta lucked into 1st cheaply (which I did, but also a bit of reading people). And I ended up taking 1st again because I knew I had a big reserve with my plan. Then came a crazy bidding round that I bid my single point, ending up with Rank 4 Psyche. And it was the most expensive round yet, both from seeing the escalation of the earlier rounds plus some people wanted something that wasn't a 4. Got really expensive. Then the last round ... but three rounds of bidding more and more cleaned some out, and others wanted to save enough points to get cool other stuff since they didn't have great ranks, leaving me able to take 1st rank again. That's right, an easily controlled 4th rank psyche with 1st rank everything else. Perfect recipe for GM mayhem. I think I had enough points left to walk the pattern, with taking on some Bad Stuff. Or maybe it was a partial pattern. I don't remember, it was bargain basement time. At the time I was 19 or 20 and felt really cool about how I managed to get all of those 1st ranks. But with only 9 ranks that weren't a 4 up for grabs among 8-10 people, and I had not just a full third of them but the best third of them, I think everyone else may have been less than enthused about their characters. And the game never ended up taking off that night. [/QUOTE]
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