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<blockquote data-quote="Pyromantic" data-source="post: 5846515" data-attributes="member: 6690699">As some have already mentioned, this is completely irrelevant in the case of d20 rolls or similar mechanics that work in an additive fashion.&nbsp; You could apply a flat +100 bonus to all d20 rolls and increase all DCs by 100 and it would have basically no effect on the probabilities involved in the game.&nbsp; All d20 rolls boil down to the same thing: you are attempting to succeed on a task, and of the 20 numbers that can show on the die, a certain number of them result in success.&nbsp; However many of them there are is not dependent on bonuses and increases in DC that simply cancel out.&nbsp; There are certain corner cases that can be influenced, such as the frequency of hits that are criticals (if you always need 20 to hit, but getting 20 to hit results in a critical, then every hit is a critical) but that's about it.&nbsp; Appearances and ease of working with the numbers become the more important factors.&nbsp;As has also been mentioned however, things that work in a more multiplicative fashion are quite different.&nbsp; Here the ratios become important.&nbsp; For example, if a target has 20 hit points and you do 4 damage per hit, then you need to connect 5 times to reduce it to 0.&nbsp; Get an additional +1 to damage, and now you need 4 hits.&nbsp; But if you only do 1 damage per hit, the +1 to damage is huge, reducing the number of hits you need from 20 to 10.&nbsp;In some areas of the mechanics then, moving away from 0 as a basis makes sense, but only to the degree to which you need room for fine adjustments.&nbsp; &nbsp;I really hope some strong mathematicians are involved in fine-tuning the mechanics for Next.&nbsp; Issues like this are what created problems like higher-complexity challenges actually being easier than lower-complexity in the first version of skill challenges.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pyromantic, post: 5846515, member: 6690699"] As some have already mentioned, this is completely irrelevant in the case of d20 rolls or similar mechanics that work in an additive fashion. You could apply a flat +100 bonus to all d20 rolls and increase all DCs by 100 and [i]it would have basically no effect[/i] on the probabilities involved in the game. All d20 rolls boil down to the same thing: you are attempting to succeed on a task, and of the 20 numbers that can show on the die, a certain number of them result in success. However many of them there are is not dependent on bonuses and increases in DC that simply cancel out. There are certain corner cases that can be influenced, such as the frequency of hits that are criticals (if you always need 20 to hit, but getting 20 to hit results in a critical, then every hit is a critical) but that's about it. Appearances and ease of working with the numbers become the more important factors. As has also been mentioned however, things that work in a more multiplicative fashion are quite different. Here the ratios become important. For example, if a target has 20 hit points and you do 4 damage per hit, then you need to connect 5 times to reduce it to 0. Get an additional +1 to damage, and now you need 4 hits. But if you only do 1 damage per hit, the +1 to damage is huge, reducing the number of hits you need from 20 to 10. In some areas of the mechanics then, moving away from 0 as a basis makes sense, but only to the degree to which you need room for fine adjustments. I really hope some strong mathematicians are involved in fine-tuning the mechanics for Next. Issues like this are what created problems like higher-complexity challenges actually being [i]easier[/i] than lower-complexity in the first version of skill challenges. [/QUOTE]

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