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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5848317" data-attributes="member: 29398">Sorry, I read the elaboration and took it to be the main discussion.&nbsp;The example I used was straight d8, not d4...but everything else is right. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I'd say quite the opposite.&nbsp; As soon as the bonus number gets bigger than the die size being rolled the die roll starts becoming less and less relevant.&nbsp; Using your example of someone doing d4+10 per hit thus giving a possible result range of 11-14, it's easy to see that what matters is the constant +10 rather than the extra 1-4 tack-on.And this largely defeats the purpose of a dice-based game in which random chance is intended to play a significant role.The base mod. doesn't need to be +4 if the foe has fewer h.p. to begin with.Call it a severe playstyle or preference difference if you like, but I just can't agree with the assumption that a PC has to always be successful at what it does.&nbsp; Yes, a low-level fighter might miss the orc 60 or 70 or even 80% of the time.&nbsp; So what?&nbsp; What makes the fighter a hero is that she's out there fighting the orc at all, where lesser people hide in their homes behind barred doors.Here again it comes down to player (and DM) attitude on this one point and speaks to a larger issue of entitlement and expected success.&nbsp; I can't help you there.Lan-&quot;if nobody ever made mistakes the game - and real life - would be pretty dull&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 5848317, member: 29398"] Sorry, I read the elaboration and took it to be the main discussion. The example I used was straight d8, not d4...but everything else is right. :) I'd say quite the opposite. As soon as the bonus number gets bigger than the die size being rolled the die roll starts becoming less and less relevant. Using your example of someone doing d4+10 per hit thus giving a possible result range of 11-14, it's easy to see that what matters is the constant +10 rather than the extra 1-4 tack-on. And this largely defeats the purpose of a dice-based game in which random chance is intended to play a significant role. The base mod. doesn't need to be +4 if the foe has fewer h.p. to begin with. Call it a severe playstyle or preference difference if you like, but I just can't agree with the assumption that a PC has to always be successful at what it does. Yes, a low-level fighter might miss the orc 60 or 70 or even 80% of the time. So what? What makes the fighter a hero is that she's out there fighting the orc at all, where lesser people hide in their homes behind barred doors. Here again it comes down to player (and DM) attitude on this one point and speaks to a larger issue of entitlement and expected success. I can't help you there. Lan-"if nobody ever made mistakes the game - and real life - would be pretty dull"-efan [/QUOTE]

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