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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3406194" data-attributes="member: 18280">I have no interest in this sort of game, no matter what side of the screen I would be on.&nbsp; IMHO, it is an inherently worse game than one which is created by preparation and a sense that things are going on outside the PCs (and hence, players) sphere of influence.&nbsp; Not a mildly worse game, either, but a vastly worse game.&nbsp; If this was the only type of game available, I would watch American Idol before I sat down to play....and my loathing of American Idol is legendary.Of course, (1)&nbsp; I suspect that you and I have different definitions of the word &quot;need&quot;.&nbsp; I very much doubt anyone ever needs to play a PC beholder the way I define the word.&nbsp; I think what you mean is &quot;want&quot;.(2)&nbsp; What about when a player &quot;needs&quot; to play a 20th level character among other players who &quot;need&quot; to play 1st level characters?(3)&nbsp; I agree quite a bit with Celebrim here -- and I would venture to say that the player who &quot;needs&quot; to play a PC beholder in my campaign world also needs (and as in my definition, not as in &quot;wants&quot;) to mature a bit before playing in my game.&nbsp; There are some well-developed settings where that sort of character is appropriate, but they are few and far between.(4)&nbsp; All that aside, if it floats your boat, go ahead and play.&nbsp; It's good that you're having fun.&nbsp; Just don't expect me to want to jump in, and don't expect me to agree that such a playstyle is great.&nbsp; I'd give up gaming first.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3406194, member: 18280"] I have no interest in this sort of game, no matter what side of the screen I would be on. IMHO, it is an inherently worse game than one which is created by preparation and a sense that things are going on outside the PCs (and hence, players) sphere of influence. Not a mildly worse game, either, but a [I]vastly[/I] worse game. If this was the only type of game available, I would watch [I]American Idol[/I] before I sat down to play....and my loathing of [I]American Idol[/I] is legendary. Of course, (1) I suspect that you and I have different definitions of the word "need". I very much doubt anyone ever [I]needs[/I] to play a PC beholder the way I define the word. I think what you mean is "want". (2) What about when a player "needs" to play a 20th level character among other players who "need" to play 1st level characters? (3) I agree quite a bit with [B]Celebrim[/B] here -- and I would venture to say that the player who "needs" to play a PC beholder in my campaign world also needs (and as in my definition, not as in "wants") to mature a bit before playing in my game. There are some well-developed settings where that sort of character is appropriate, but they are few and far between. (4) All that aside, if it floats your boat, go ahead and play. It's good that you're having fun. Just don't expect me to want to jump in, and don't expect me to agree that such a playstyle is great. I'd give up gaming first. RC [/QUOTE]

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