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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5158571" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>False contrast. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>False contrast.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, on your turn, rolling one dice and failing a saving throw and on your turn rolling one dice failing in an attack are the exact same level of interaction with the game and the rules. Contrasting rolling one dice and failing with sitting back and eating doritos all session long is a logical fallacy and an attempt by you to deflect discussion of the topic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know what I wrote. I know how what I wrote 'seems' to you, and I wish I could get you to consider what I wrote rather than the baggage you are bringing to this from your investment in arguments in other threads. I have in no way provided an example contrasting non-participation and participation. I could, but I want to get over this hurdle before making the conversation any more complicated, given that the very basic case I keep repeating is not being understood.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. However, failing a saving throw to recover round after round is not 'not playing a game at all' any more than failing an attack roll round after round is 'not playing at all'. I'm not attempting to say that either situation doesn't suck, but they suck in the exact same way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5158571, member: 4937"] False contrast. False contrast. Once again, on your turn, rolling one dice and failing a saving throw and on your turn rolling one dice failing in an attack are the exact same level of interaction with the game and the rules. Contrasting rolling one dice and failing with sitting back and eating doritos all session long is a logical fallacy and an attempt by you to deflect discussion of the topic. I know what I wrote. I know how what I wrote 'seems' to you, and I wish I could get you to consider what I wrote rather than the baggage you are bringing to this from your investment in arguments in other threads. I have in no way provided an example contrasting non-participation and participation. I could, but I want to get over this hurdle before making the conversation any more complicated, given that the very basic case I keep repeating is not being understood. I agree. However, failing a saving throw to recover round after round is not 'not playing a game at all' any more than failing an attack roll round after round is 'not playing at all'. I'm not attempting to say that either situation doesn't suck, but they suck in the exact same way. [/QUOTE]
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