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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5158740" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Doug: I'm really not sure where Steel Wind draws the line between 'casual gamer' and 'lifestyle gamer', and I suppose we should ask him for a precise definition lest we risk misunderstanding him too much.</p><p></p><p>For my casual definition, I'd suggest that anyone on EnWorld with more than 100 posts is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. Anyone who is over 30 and has been playing since before they were 20 is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. And, more importantly for my purposes, anyone that puts more than an hour per week into their gaming outside of play itself is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. </p><p></p><p>As for you quoting of Gary, I'm not really sure how you meant it, since it seems to offer plenty of nuance that can be easily jumped on by those that would want to disagree with what I said and those that would want to agree. But as for how I'd respond to Gary himself, I'd note that Gary proposes a false delimma. He asks us to choose between playing a more complicated game and being a 'lifestyle gamer', and playing AD&D and being a more 'casual gamer'. But those are not the only options, and in particular I think history shows that AD&D was more successful at capturing both the casual gamer and 'lifestyle gamer' (however we define that) market.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5158740, member: 4937"] Doug: I'm really not sure where Steel Wind draws the line between 'casual gamer' and 'lifestyle gamer', and I suppose we should ask him for a precise definition lest we risk misunderstanding him too much. For my casual definition, I'd suggest that anyone on EnWorld with more than 100 posts is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. Anyone who is over 30 and has been playing since before they were 20 is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. And, more importantly for my purposes, anyone that puts more than an hour per week into their gaming outside of play itself is probably a 'lifestyle gamer'. As for you quoting of Gary, I'm not really sure how you meant it, since it seems to offer plenty of nuance that can be easily jumped on by those that would want to disagree with what I said and those that would want to agree. But as for how I'd respond to Gary himself, I'd note that Gary proposes a false delimma. He asks us to choose between playing a more complicated game and being a 'lifestyle gamer', and playing AD&D and being a more 'casual gamer'. But those are not the only options, and in particular I think history shows that AD&D was more successful at capturing both the casual gamer and 'lifestyle gamer' (however we define that) market. [/QUOTE]
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