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<blockquote data-quote="awesomeocalypse" data-source="post: 5160907" data-attributes="member: 85641">And my argument is that, unless we're literally splitting fractions of a second here, the type of gratification PNP games are good at offering can be just as &quot;instant&quot; as in video games. No, there's no &quot;look at the flashy&quot;, but that isn't the only kind of instantaneous reward.&nbsp;When my friends and I are in a tough combat, and I land a critical hit, it may not come with flashy images and booming sound effects...but if it makes my friends jump up and yell &quot;w00t! way to go awesomeocalypse!&quot;, then that is a more or less instantenous reward, and to my mind, one that is considerably more of an ego boost. If I pull off a cool stunt, I may not have the satisfaction of seeing it beautifully rendered in 3d. But if the DM has one of the minions I'm fighting go &quot;oh my god, didja see how that guy ran up the wall and flipped over the dragon? there's no way we're taking this guy, run away!&quot; then that is a viscerally satisfying immediate reward.&nbsp;I've yet to see a convincing explanation as to why the sort of rewards PNP offers for the &quot;ego-driven gamer&quot; are inherantly delayed or less instantaneously gratifying. I have loads of great memories of doing awesome stuff in PNP, and having the more or less instantaneous gratification of the congratulations of my friends and the respect/awe of the characters in the world. No delayed, long cycle reward required.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="awesomeocalypse, post: 5160907, member: 85641"] And my argument is that, unless we're literally splitting fractions of a second here, the type of gratification PNP games are good at offering can be just as "instant" as in video games. No, there's no "look at the flashy", but that isn't the only kind of instantaneous reward. When my friends and I are in a tough combat, and I land a critical hit, it may not come with flashy images and booming sound effects...but if it makes my friends jump up and yell "w00t! way to go awesomeocalypse!", then that is a more or less instantenous reward, and to my mind, one that is considerably more of an ego boost. If I pull off a cool stunt, I may not have the satisfaction of seeing it beautifully rendered in 3d. But if the DM has one of the minions I'm fighting go "oh my god, didja see how that guy ran up the wall and flipped over the dragon? there's no way we're taking this guy, run away!" then that is a viscerally satisfying immediate reward. I've yet to see a convincing explanation as to why the sort of rewards PNP offers for the "ego-driven gamer" are inherantly delayed or less instantaneously gratifying. I have loads of great memories of doing awesome stuff in PNP, and having the more or less instantaneous gratification of the congratulations of my friends and the respect/awe of the characters in the world. No delayed, long cycle reward required. [/QUOTE]

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