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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7738855" data-attributes="member: 6801286">I don't think that is a valid comparison. Dex saves are generally used to resolve your nimbleness or reflexes for something. Whereas Diplomacy is all about influencing other characters. Player agency is never a concern when it comes to the rules deciding if you get hit by something or not, or how well you perform a certain skill. But it is when it comes to charisma based skills.I get what you are trying to say though.I don't think any of these choices is inherently wrong. They are merely different approaches to playing the game.But it's still up to the player to decide how his character responds. There's no wrong way to react here. He can have his character be convinced by the successful Diplomacy roll that the npc made, or he can ignore it. That's up to the player to decide.I don't think a player is obligated to do this at all. In fact, on many occasions my players have pondered whether they should take a certain spell into the upcoming battle, because their character may not have a reason to think the spell would be necessary. And that is always the moment where I as a DM remind them that it is still a game, and they can make what ever choice (good or bad) as they see fit. They can think as their characters, but they can also think as players. Neither is wrong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 7738855, member: 6801286"] I don't think that is a valid comparison. Dex saves are generally used to resolve your nimbleness or reflexes for something. Whereas Diplomacy is all about influencing other characters. Player agency is never a concern when it comes to the rules deciding if you get hit by something or not, or how well you perform a certain skill. But it is when it comes to charisma based skills. I get what you are trying to say though. I don't think any of these choices is inherently wrong. They are merely different approaches to playing the game. But it's still up to the player to decide how his character responds. There's no wrong way to react here. He can have his character be convinced by the successful Diplomacy roll that the npc made, or he can ignore it. That's up to the player to decide. I don't think a player is obligated to do this at all. In fact, on many occasions my players have pondered whether they should take a certain spell into the upcoming battle, because their character may not have a reason to think the spell would be necessary. And that is always the moment where I as a DM remind them that it is still a game, and they can make what ever choice (good or bad) as they see fit. They can think as their characters, but they can also think as players. Neither is wrong. [/QUOTE]

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