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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7741654"><p>Stealth determines how well you are hiding. The other guy uses Perception to determine how well they are noticing.</p><p></p><p>Presumably Arcana to erase a sigil affects the sigil, not the caster, and in any event would have a DC based on the caster's level/ability.</p><p></p><p>Beating somebody in a race would be an opposed Athletics check. You are each rolling for your own success; you rolling well doesn't make the other person go slower.</p><p></p><p>How does that work for Persuasion?</p><p></p><p>And....on top of all of that, I still have strong opposition to anything that tells me what my character thinks. You have given this example of "You may think of yourself as the best fighter around, but if you keep getting beaten you won't be able to keep believing that, so the mechanics do affect why you think." Or something like that.</p><p></p><p>I disagree. I may lose every single fight, but if I want my character to still think he's the baddest dude ever...who just happens to have excuses for all those losses...that's my business, not the DMs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7741654"] Stealth determines how well you are hiding. The other guy uses Perception to determine how well they are noticing. Presumably Arcana to erase a sigil affects the sigil, not the caster, and in any event would have a DC based on the caster's level/ability. Beating somebody in a race would be an opposed Athletics check. You are each rolling for your own success; you rolling well doesn't make the other person go slower. How does that work for Persuasion? And....on top of all of that, I still have strong opposition to anything that tells me what my character thinks. You have given this example of "You may think of yourself as the best fighter around, but if you keep getting beaten you won't be able to keep believing that, so the mechanics do affect why you think." Or something like that. I disagree. I may lose every single fight, but if I want my character to still think he's the baddest dude ever...who just happens to have excuses for all those losses...that's my business, not the DMs. [/QUOTE]
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