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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7741787">Physical.&nbsp; The DM can tell me I'm tired, and even suffer a penalty to rolls because of it, but he's not allowed to tell me how I feel about being tired.&nbsp; &quot;You're grumpy because you want some sleep&quot; is off-limits.Huh?&nbsp; &quot;I'm the toughest guy there is&quot; is not fair game.&nbsp; Despite an absolute preponderance of evidence, if I want my character to believe he is the toughest guy around...or the bravest, or the shrewdest, etc....then that's my prerogative.&nbsp; I think what you are referring to is whether or not he is actually so tough that he can shrug off a mechanic that says he takes damage, or stand tall to a mechanic that specifies he must flee, etc., and why those are categorically different.&nbsp; By the categorization you are emphasizing, they aren't.But that's only because you don't value the categorization I use: whether or not my character's emotions and thoughts are being dictated.&nbsp; And, unless it is supernatural or magical, it is never ok to dictate those thoughts.No, it's not.&nbsp; I actually prefer to have the players contribute to the fiction in a broader sense. It's too much work to do it all myself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7741787"] Physical. The DM can tell me I'm tired, and even suffer a penalty to rolls because of it, but he's not allowed to tell me how I feel about being tired. "You're grumpy because you want some sleep" is off-limits. Huh? "I'm the toughest guy there is" is not fair game. Despite an absolute preponderance of evidence, if I want my character to believe he is the toughest guy around...or the bravest, or the shrewdest, etc....then that's my prerogative. I think what you are referring to is whether or not he is [I]actually[/I] so tough that he can shrug off a mechanic that says he takes damage, or stand tall to a mechanic that specifies he must flee, etc., and why those are categorically different. By the categorization you are emphasizing, they aren't. But that's only because you don't value the categorization I use: whether or not my character's emotions and thoughts are being dictated. And, unless it is supernatural or magical, it is never ok to dictate those thoughts. No, it's not. I actually prefer to have the players contribute to the fiction in a broader sense. It's too much work to do it all myself. [/QUOTE]

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