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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7742454" data-attributes="member: 996">The thing we have differing views of - in this instance, D&D, since that's where the reactions you're talking about come in - is laden with baggage.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> The same sorts of issues were brought up over casters 'forgetting' spells back in the early days, and alternate systems, where spells were cast with mana points or with failure/backlash chances were not at all unusual.  Folks got used to the gamist compromise of n/day spellcasting, and it became engrained, in D&D it became definitively 'magical,' even though it defined magic nowhere in the broader fantasy genre (Dying Earth being technically sci-fi).Martial Arts - Ki in 5e D&D - isn't at-will, either... oh, and it's explicitly magical.  :shrug:D&D's dissonances are many and overwhelming until you get used to 'em.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  It's not really much of an issue in other RPGs, once you leave D&D's immediate orbit (D&D, d20, fantasy heartbreakers).  In Hero System, for instance, you could take a power with 1 charge and a 'martial' (arts, probably) Special Effect and no one would think anything of it - and, of course, such limitations are entirely in the hands of the player building a power to fit his character.  By the same token you could buy your magical-F/X power at 0 END and use it every phase all day, no issues, it'd still be magical.  Then, anything less dissonant (like casters suddenly getting at-wills & rituals) become dissonant. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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