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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7743315" data-attributes="member: 22779">Just to answer a question with a question, how many checks do you think it should take before the GM can kill a PC?To me, the answer is, it depends.  It's going to depend on a lot of factors.  By and large though, we frown these days on a single check killing a PC, despite that being pretty common once upon a time.  In combat, it's going to take a LOT of checks for that kobold to kill that 10th level barbarian, but, a whole lot fewer checks for that elder wyrm red dragon to do the same thing.So, other than, "Very, very likely more than one", I don't think you can come up with a one size fits all answer to that question.  What are the stakes?  Obviously a higher stake situation should probably require more checks.  If someone's trying to convince Captain America to side with Red Skull, that's going to take a heck of a lot of checks.  OTOH, trying to convince Cap to get a Facebook account probably isn't that much of a challenge.Telling the player that he enjoyed the music because the NPC bard scored high enough on the DC is an example of a single check I suppose.  That one's right there in the rules.  Sorry, but the English teacher in me rejects your rather contorted interpretation of the language.  It's pretty clear what the skill says.  Conversely, trying to persuade your character to take up this challenge as opposed to continuing on your merry way (a la the earlier example of the horse people) would likely require multiple checks, probably some sort of first past the post with each side making arguments and counter arguments and then opposed checks.</blockquote>

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