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<blockquote data-quote="Darth Solo" data-source="post: 7743839" data-attributes="member: 6791759"><p>"Player Agency", or, the players ability to control their own character, is proto-mythic. It influences the game but only as much as the player touches the GM's game.</p><p></p><p>There's how the dice affect the game, then there's how the players' actual RP affects the game. Rpgs have a few levels. To say to game stops or begins at a level could be inaccurate.</p><p></p><p>If you decide to play a game where a player (the GM) can negate or even control your decisions as a player and that irks you, do not play D&D RAW. Your group should agree the GM is not the final authority. </p><p></p><p>You can do that. </p><p></p><p>But the idea that the entire hobby might should change because you don't like Charm is silly. Change your table, not mine. I'm going to play D&D as intended, which is, as my group prefers.</p><p></p><p>I don't begrudge Storygamers how they want to play, even though D&D was never designed for them. They can make it their own. More power. </p><p></p><p>Just don't try to tell me how my group plays is wrong. Ever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darth Solo, post: 7743839, member: 6791759"] "Player Agency", or, the players ability to control their own character, is proto-mythic. It influences the game but only as much as the player touches the GM's game. There's how the dice affect the game, then there's how the players' actual RP affects the game. Rpgs have a few levels. To say to game stops or begins at a level could be inaccurate. If you decide to play a game where a player (the GM) can negate or even control your decisions as a player and that irks you, do not play D&D RAW. Your group should agree the GM is not the final authority. You can do that. But the idea that the entire hobby might should change because you don't like Charm is silly. Change your table, not mine. I'm going to play D&D as intended, which is, as my group prefers. I don't begrudge Storygamers how they want to play, even though D&D was never designed for them. They can make it their own. More power. Just don't try to tell me how my group plays is wrong. Ever. [/QUOTE]
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