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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7743956">It doesn't seem to me you are reading what they are saying correctly.  I don't think they are arguing that because of Rule 0 they can override the combat rules.  They are saying that whether or not a roll is required to accomplish a task is up to them, and if they rule that no attack roll is necessary then it's not 'using Rule 0 to change the rules' to allow automatic success.  Bawylie is invoking Rule 0 to decide when tests are necessary, not to change the rules.To argue that's changing the rules would be to argue that any time a character opens a door he is supposed to make a strength check.If, on the other hand, the DM says you have to make an attack roll and says "...but if you roll a miss then it's still a hit..."  then he's using Rule 0 to house rule.</blockquote>