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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7745520" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I wouldn't say "colour only".</p><p></p><p>In my 4e game, if I'm recalling correctly, X was going into the Underdark to find and destroy Torog's Soul Abattoir, and Y was going to the Abyss to the beseiged fortress of Mal Arundak. I think the paladin of the Raven Queen was the main advocate for X, the invoker/wizard the maink advocate for Y. The possibility of X - ie that Torog has a Soul Abattoir in the Underdark - was established relatively early in the campaign (ie some time in Heroic Tier) because when the PCs reached 11th level and the paladin took on the Questing Knight paragon path, the player knew (in the sense of <em>chose</em>, with the feeling that there was on other choice) that his PC's quest was to destroy the Soul Abattoir. As far as I know the only mention of the Soul Abattoir is in the Underdark hardback, so I would have intoduced it into play having read that book.</p><p></p><p>Mal Arundak is described in The Plane Below. It was introduced into play much later - I can't remember how, but it would have been something that was told to the invoker/wizard, maybe connected to backstory around Miska the Wolf-Spider.</p><p></p><p>When the PCs agree to go to Mal Arundak rather than the Soul Abattoir (as resolved at the table via an opposed check between the two sides), they are determining that the next little while of play will involve Abyssal stuff rather than Underdark-y stuff. So it won't be possible to destroy the Soul Abattoir. But because of the way the game is being run, I'm still going to be establishing situations that engage the paladin: on the Abyss the paladin (together with the other PCs) <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?340383-PCs-kill-Ometh-leading-to-open-season-on-the-Raven-Queen-s-name" target="_blank">was attacked by his rival Ometh</a>, and this resulted in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?342615-PCs-defeat-Miska-but-relinquish-the-Crystal-of-the-Ebon-Flame" target="_blank">a subsequent crisis that called the party from Mal Arundak back to the mortal world</a>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7745520, member: 42582"] I wouldn't say "colour only". In my 4e game, if I'm recalling correctly, X was going into the Underdark to find and destroy Torog's Soul Abattoir, and Y was going to the Abyss to the beseiged fortress of Mal Arundak. I think the paladin of the Raven Queen was the main advocate for X, the invoker/wizard the maink advocate for Y. The possibility of X - ie that Torog has a Soul Abattoir in the Underdark - was established relatively early in the campaign (ie some time in Heroic Tier) because when the PCs reached 11th level and the paladin took on the Questing Knight paragon path, the player knew (in the sense of [I]chose[/I], with the feeling that there was on other choice) that his PC's quest was to destroy the Soul Abattoir. As far as I know the only mention of the Soul Abattoir is in the Underdark hardback, so I would have intoduced it into play having read that book. Mal Arundak is described in The Plane Below. It was introduced into play much later - I can't remember how, but it would have been something that was told to the invoker/wizard, maybe connected to backstory around Miska the Wolf-Spider. When the PCs agree to go to Mal Arundak rather than the Soul Abattoir (as resolved at the table via an opposed check between the two sides), they are determining that the next little while of play will involve Abyssal stuff rather than Underdark-y stuff. So it won't be possible to destroy the Soul Abattoir. But because of the way the game is being run, I'm still going to be establishing situations that engage the paladin: on the Abyss the paladin (together with the other PCs) [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?340383-PCs-kill-Ometh-leading-to-open-season-on-the-Raven-Queen-s-name]was attacked by his rival Ometh[/url], and this resulted in [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?342615-PCs-defeat-Miska-but-relinquish-the-Crystal-of-the-Ebon-Flame]a subsequent crisis that called the party from Mal Arundak back to the mortal world[/url]. [/QUOTE]
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