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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 4442462" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>Or, for that matter, are character levels justified in game settings? What about pre-scripted arguments? Or dramatic editing mechanics? For the most part, they don't seem to be. The important thing to remember, though, is that these are <em>games</em> dedicated to simulating other entertainment mediums or realities for the purpose of entertainment. </p><p></p><p>As games, the primary concern of such constructs is ideally with providing <em>playable simulation</em>, not with providing 100% accurate physics models. That said, some game systems have pursued the latter to the exclusion of the former and failed horrendously as a result. Indeed, I would argue that any game placing form before function will be doomed to the same fate. </p><p></p><p>So, to answer your question. . . yes, such abstractions are permissible. I'll go one step further, though, and also say that they are <em>required</em>. Fundamentally, abstract game mechanics are what distance the simulation of a given thing from the real deal. It's the difference between punching somebody in the face and rolling dice to simulate punching somebody in the face. </p><p></p><p>If that makes any sense (sorry, it's late here).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 4442462, member: 13892"] Or, for that matter, are character levels justified in game settings? What about pre-scripted arguments? Or dramatic editing mechanics? For the most part, they don't seem to be. The important thing to remember, though, is that these are [I]games[/I] dedicated to simulating other entertainment mediums or realities for the purpose of entertainment. As games, the primary concern of such constructs is ideally with providing [I]playable simulation[/I], not with providing 100% accurate physics models. That said, some game systems have pursued the latter to the exclusion of the former and failed horrendously as a result. Indeed, I would argue that any game placing form before function will be doomed to the same fate. So, to answer your question. . . yes, such abstractions are permissible. I'll go one step further, though, and also say that they are [i]required[/i]. Fundamentally, abstract game mechanics are what distance the simulation of a given thing from the real deal. It's the difference between punching somebody in the face and rolling dice to simulate punching somebody in the face. If that makes any sense (sorry, it's late here). [/QUOTE]
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