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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 67947" data-attributes="member: 1325"><p>He said it was nerfing the BARD... </p><p></p><p>He used 1) a Shape Change 2) a Monster Summoning IX 3) Was about to use a Mordenkainen's Disjunction...(by his own admission)</p><p></p><p>So that was 3 scrolls at what? 3000+ gp per scroll... He wouldn't have needed that many more 9th level scrolls.</p><p></p><p>He was casting ARCANE spells from scrolls. UMD skill requires use of the required stat still or it starts getting difficult. Using a scroll a BARD would get double use from his CHARISMA... He would need quite a high CHARISMA to get a high enough leadership for all those followers....</p><p></p><p>UMD is a trained only skill available to BARDS and rogues ONLY.</p><p></p><p>It was an ASSUMPTION. brought about by seeing what the dude has done and said on the board. As to the number of scrolls, THAT was a guess, an estimate as to what would have been reasonable to purchase, considering the desire for cash to be left over for certain other items (rings, cloaks, boots, curing items, what have you)...</p><p></p><p>Like I said, your character was amazing... But if Kanyano hadn't of acted when he did, you would have won. He was the only character remaining on the playing field that could have POSSIBLY have affected you. </p><p></p><p>Kanyano can STILL be affected by other types. As you noticed by the amount of injuries he has received.</p><p></p><p>It is a good experiment in seeing what characters can do. But we don't want to see just two character types on the battlefield:</p><p> 1) fighter-type in antimagic field. </p><p>2)Bard casting 9th level spells, summoning monsters with exceptional ray attacks of 2d12 against which there is defense in the game except to get it within an antimagic field.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="green slime, post: 67947, member: 1325"] He said it was nerfing the BARD... He used 1) a Shape Change 2) a Monster Summoning IX 3) Was about to use a Mordenkainen's Disjunction...(by his own admission) So that was 3 scrolls at what? 3000+ gp per scroll... He wouldn't have needed that many more 9th level scrolls. He was casting ARCANE spells from scrolls. UMD skill requires use of the required stat still or it starts getting difficult. Using a scroll a BARD would get double use from his CHARISMA... He would need quite a high CHARISMA to get a high enough leadership for all those followers.... UMD is a trained only skill available to BARDS and rogues ONLY. It was an ASSUMPTION. brought about by seeing what the dude has done and said on the board. As to the number of scrolls, THAT was a guess, an estimate as to what would have been reasonable to purchase, considering the desire for cash to be left over for certain other items (rings, cloaks, boots, curing items, what have you)... Like I said, your character was amazing... But if Kanyano hadn't of acted when he did, you would have won. He was the only character remaining on the playing field that could have POSSIBLY have affected you. Kanyano can STILL be affected by other types. As you noticed by the amount of injuries he has received. It is a good experiment in seeing what characters can do. But we don't want to see just two character types on the battlefield: 1) fighter-type in antimagic field. 2)Bard casting 9th level spells, summoning monsters with exceptional ray attacks of 2d12 against which there is defense in the game except to get it within an antimagic field. [/QUOTE]
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