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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5535479" data-attributes="member: 20741">Nonsense. Now you are talking like Eddard. Tywin was either in open rebellion against the Crown, or The Mountain acted on his own and was a bandit. There was no "making matters worse". By definition, it couldn't GET worse. What it could get, was BETTER. Better was allowing Loras Tyrell to go off and either kill the Mountain or be killed. Either way, the Throne would win. It's that simple. Sending Loras was a win-win scenario. Eddard was a fool who thought preventing further open hostitilites was a thing to be avoided, rather than embraced.Eddard was the Lawful Regent of the Realm and the Lord Protector of the Seven Kingdoms. He didn't have to justify his actions to anybody. As long as he held the "Baratheon children" as his wards and Cersei as his "Honoured guest", Tywin was screwed. If Tywin moved openly against the Crown, he could threaten to put Cersei on trial for incest (and do it if Tywin didn't actually back down).If Tywin was cowed (and he would have been), it would permit Eddard time to get Stannis' forces in place near KL and call the Banners in the North and the Riverlands while the South mobilized.  What seizing the Baratheons as Regent provided to Eddard was TIME. As for more Lannister forces being in KL -- yes and no.  As long as Eddard held the Baratheons in Magor's with a couple of hundred men, they could hold out for as long as it took for the Banners of the South to reach KL (Storms End and the Tyrells) and for Stannis to arrive. Stannis by sea is much faster than Tywin on foot. And at this time, Eddard also belived that Catelyn held Tyrion and that the Eyrie would have been loyal to the Thonre (and in truth, it probably would have been, too). That left Jamie, who was an outlaw for his attack on Eddard as the only free Lannister after Tywin. Very good odds. Kill either one of Jaime or Tywin, and by holding Tyrion and Cersei, Eddard had the heirs to Casterly Rock in his control. It was smooth sailing. Under those circumstances, Tywin would bend the knee as long as he could be allowed a way to save face. The peace would be preserved and the Regency would have ushered in an era of peace and prosperity, just in time for Winter.All Ned had to do was play a waiting game. The fact that Renly would move against the Laninsters -- along with Loras off killing or better still, *getting killed by* The Mountain -- this assured Eddard victory. The Lannisters would thereby be marginalized and without allies. Eddard had the North, the Riverlands, the Tyrells, and Renly at his side -- and Stannis would eventually come on board and be King. Or if that would prove unpalatable and lead to civil war, then Stannis could have an "accident" in the best interests of the realm. Renly would have made an excellent King. And probably would have allowed Eddard to go back home with his family. Marry Sansa to Renly, Robb to Margaery, it's all good. At that point, (assuming Stannis had an accident) he could have even had found a bride for Brandon. It's not as if anyone was queueing up to marry Shireen. Bran and Shireen could have worked too.And if for some reason Renly didn't want to be King? Well, Eddard had Jon Snow in his pocket.  Options galore.The only other great houses were the Martells - who would not side with the Lannisers come what may after Ilya, and the Greyjoys. Balon's heir was held by Eddard and the Redwine fleet along with the King's ships on the Blackwater and Stannis' fleet were essentially in Eddard's control. Greyjoy would not dare let a ship sail in league with the Lannisters or the Iron Isles would be crushed...AGAIN.That Ned did not stop to consider these things, let alone evaluate and then discount them as options, was pretty much just his honour getting in the way of Peace, Order and Good Government.</blockquote>

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