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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4035147" data-attributes="member: 32164">Again. We're not talking about your character, or anyone's character. We're talking about a NPC that the DM created for a plot. This ruling doesn't affect players. It will NEVER affect players.As a DM, I refuse to jump through the hoops of the game rules to kill off an NPC for a plot point. And if my players start making whacko assumptions about curses and monsters being involved just because my backstory says the NPC killed a great wyrm 30 (or 40) years ago, I'm going to smack them.&nbsp;Okay. But Batman hasn't died because, basically, killing Batman would mean you couldn't make any more Batman comics. Would you accept a few examples from the folks over at Marvel, who seem more willing to shake up the status quo?Captain Marvel (the Kree Mar-Vell), a character closer to Superman's class than Batman's, died from cancer, while surrounded by his friends and family.Captain America was killed while being escorted into a jailhouse. He took, I believe, two bullets.Tony &quot;Iron Man&quot; Stark was paralyzed by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend wielding an automatic pistol. I admit he didn't &quot;die.&quot;And, moving back to Batman comics, Barbara &quot;Batgirl&quot; Gordon was permanently paralyzed by a ONE bullet from the Joker's gun. One bullet. Granted, it's not &quot;dead,&quot; but it's a pretty ignominious injury for a hero who's been shot at 100 times.For the record, I've learned something from this thread. Clearly, it's very important that Group A people and Group B people never game together. Fortunately, all the people I know and am likely to game with are Group A, like me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 4035147, member: 32164"] Again. We're not talking about your character, or anyone's character. We're talking about a NPC that the DM created for a plot. This ruling doesn't affect players. It will NEVER affect players. As a DM, I refuse to jump through the hoops of the game rules to kill off an NPC for a plot point. And if my players start making whacko assumptions about curses and monsters being involved just because my backstory says the NPC killed a great wyrm 30 (or 40) years ago, I'm going to smack them. Okay. But Batman hasn't died because, basically, killing Batman would mean you couldn't make any more Batman comics. Would you accept a few examples from the folks over at Marvel, who seem more willing to shake up the status quo? Captain Marvel (the Kree Mar-Vell), a character closer to Superman's class than Batman's, died from cancer, while surrounded by his friends and family. Captain America was killed while being escorted into a jailhouse. He took, I believe, two bullets. Tony "Iron Man" Stark was paralyzed by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend wielding an automatic pistol. I admit he didn't "die." And, moving back to Batman comics, Barbara "Batgirl" Gordon was permanently paralyzed by a ONE bullet from the Joker's gun. One bullet. Granted, it's not "dead," but it's a pretty ignominious injury for a hero who's been shot at 100 times. For the record, I've learned something from this thread. Clearly, it's very important that Group A people and Group B people never game together. Fortunately, all the people I know and am likely to game with are Group A, like me. [/QUOTE]

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