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<blockquote data-quote="Terramotus" data-source="post: 4037827" data-attributes="member: 7220">I'm ill right now, and don't have the energy to wade through this entire thread, so I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere, but I advise you to read up on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor" target="_blank">Frederick Barbarossa</a>.&nbsp; He's a German Emperor of the middle ages, and while Wikipedia doesn't explicitly state the horse's role in it, he's considered to have fallen from his horse while fording a river and drowned in waist deep water while on the way to the holy land on Crusade.&nbsp; There are definitely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_in_the_mountain" target="_blank">legends</a> about him, probably in large part because of the way he died, the fact that he was on crusade, and the the chaos that followed after his death.&nbsp; Only a small portion of his men made it to the Levant.Incidentally, that sounds to me like a great dramatic starting point for a campaign, or a major charlie foxtrot for the heroes to have to deal with in an ongoing campaign, rather than something that would destroy my enjoyment.I can't say that I understand your position very well.&nbsp; You seem to the game rules to simulate reality, but say that this is &quot;he cold, hard, jagged stone of unnecessary realism&quot;.&nbsp; Sometimes people just fall off of their horses and die.&nbsp; People deal with it.&nbsp; It's called drama.&nbsp; Must we really have a situation where either such things can never happen or else every horseback ride provokes a 1d1,000,000 chance of ignominious death by falling for the players?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Terramotus, post: 4037827, member: 7220"] I'm ill right now, and don't have the energy to wade through this entire thread, so I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere, but I advise you to read up on [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor]Frederick Barbarossa[/URL]. He's a German Emperor of the middle ages, and while Wikipedia doesn't explicitly state the horse's role in it, he's considered to have fallen from his horse while fording a river and drowned in waist deep water while on the way to the holy land on Crusade. There are definitely [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_in_the_mountain]legends[/URL] about him, probably in large part because of the way he died, the fact that he was on crusade, and the the chaos that followed after his death. Only a small portion of his men made it to the Levant. Incidentally, that sounds to me like a great dramatic starting point for a campaign, or a major charlie foxtrot for the heroes to have to deal with in an ongoing campaign, rather than something that would destroy my enjoyment. I can't say that I understand your position very well. You seem to the game rules to simulate reality, but say that this is "he cold, hard, jagged stone of unnecessary realism". Sometimes people just fall off of their horses and die. People deal with it. It's called drama. Must we really have a situation where either such things can never happen or else every horseback ride provokes a 1d1,000,000 chance of ignominious death by falling for the players? [/QUOTE]

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