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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4040657" data-attributes="member: 4937">Well, yeah, I'm sure it is.Well, yes, but they are flat out more likely to survive a coup de grace attack as well.I think we need to keep firmly in mind that we pretending that the game world is real, and isn't actually real.&nbsp; What are we going to measure game world reality by if not the rules?&nbsp; Aren't the rules pretty much all in existance so that we can measure the reality of an unreal place?&nbsp; Isn't that really what RPG's have rules for?&nbsp; Isn't that why role playing gamers tend to be fiends for measuring and quantifying everything?&nbsp; If we didn't have any rules, what actual measurements of a fictional universe would we have?In Call of Cthulhu???&nbsp; You have got to be kidding.&nbsp; Let's say that the players really do know the hit points of the individual in question, and its greater than the maximum possible damage from the gun.&nbsp; If I'm playing an investigator, you can better believe that I'm going to say something like, &quot;Mr. Manly weighed about 20 stone, and we've all seen him heft his own weight in the gym.&nbsp; I have a hard time believing that he was killed instantly by a single shot from a small caliber handgun.&quot;&nbsp; Because well, playing an investigator in Call of Cthullu, I'm going to have a hard time believing any one died merely because they were shot and I'm automatically going to be looking for things that seem odd and not quite right.&nbsp; Really big healthy guy killed by itty bitty gun is going to be one of the things that bother me.I don't know about 'the boundaries'.&nbsp; That is a pretty abstract term and I don't know what you mean by it.&nbsp; But I do know that the measurements are established by the rules.Which is unfortunately very impercise and not very useful for conveying the sort of information you need to gain an understanding of something which isn't real - which is why games have alot of technical jargon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4040657, member: 4937"] Well, yeah, I'm sure it is. Well, yes, but they are flat out more likely to survive a coup de grace attack as well. I think we need to keep firmly in mind that we pretending that the game world is real, and isn't actually real. What are we going to measure game world reality by if not the rules? Aren't the rules pretty much all in existance so that we can measure the reality of an unreal place? Isn't that really what RPG's have rules for? Isn't that why role playing gamers tend to be fiends for measuring and quantifying everything? If we didn't have any rules, what actual measurements of a fictional universe would we have? In Call of Cthulhu??? You have got to be kidding. Let's say that the players really do know the hit points of the individual in question, and its greater than the maximum possible damage from the gun. If I'm playing an investigator, you can better believe that I'm going to say something like, "Mr. Manly weighed about 20 stone, and we've all seen him heft his own weight in the gym. I have a hard time believing that he was killed instantly by a single shot from a small caliber handgun." Because well, playing an investigator in Call of Cthullu, I'm going to have a hard time believing any one died merely because they were shot and I'm automatically going to be looking for things that seem odd and not quite right. Really big healthy guy killed by itty bitty gun is going to be one of the things that bother me. I don't know about 'the boundaries'. That is a pretty abstract term and I don't know what you mean by it. But I do know that the measurements are established by the rules. Which is unfortunately very impercise and not very useful for conveying the sort of information you need to gain an understanding of something which isn't real - which is why games have alot of technical jargon. [/QUOTE]

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