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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 4045357" data-attributes="member: 39394">Why does the fact that it is not a result on your d6 mean it is not possible?&nbsp; I honestly can't understand that.What definition of &quot;well-defined&quot; are you using that must include all possible results rather than a probable subset of possible results?&nbsp; Are you using &quot;well-defined&quot; as a term of art form some outside source?If you assume that the physics of the game world are equal in complexity to the physics of the real world, then it is impossible to include all possible results on a die roll.&nbsp; It is possible to include all possible results only in a fantasy world with great simplified physics- and I submit that will result in a game world that fails to live up to the one that exists in the imagination of players and DM.Designer intent has nothing to do with it.&nbsp; In any reasonably complex world, it is impossible to include all imaginable results (i.e. results that a player can imagine happening with credulity based purely on game world fluff and if they have never read a word of the rules.)&nbsp; I submit that a world where imaginable results outstrip possible mechanical results is the primary appeal of tabletop gaming.&nbsp;Please, let's not get back into &quot;as a player&quot; and &quot;my character&quot;.&nbsp; Assume it happens to an NPC as part of background for setting a scene, because the DM thinks it will be funny and amuse the players.&nbsp; I don't know why I should have to explicitly state that every time.Why does something like this need a rule?&nbsp; The DM is merely amusing the players.&nbsp; Perhaps the heroes are reviewing the town guard before setting out on a quest, and to emphasize the inexperience and ineptitude of the guard (thus making it clear how the safety of the town rests on the shoulders of the PCs) one of the 17 year old guardsmen ends up getting dragged along the ground by his horse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 4045357, member: 39394"] Why does the fact that it is not a result on your d6 mean it is not possible? I honestly can't understand that. What definition of "well-defined" are you using that must include all possible results rather than a probable subset of possible results? Are you using "well-defined" as a term of art form some outside source? If you assume that the physics of the game world are equal in complexity to the physics of the real world, then it is impossible to include all possible results on a die roll. It is possible to include all possible results only in a fantasy world with great simplified physics- and I submit that will result in a game world that fails to live up to the one that exists in the imagination of players and DM. Designer intent has nothing to do with it. In any reasonably complex world, it is impossible to include all imaginable results (i.e. results that a player can imagine happening with credulity based purely on game world fluff and if they have never read a word of the rules.) I submit that a world where imaginable results outstrip possible mechanical results is the primary appeal of tabletop gaming. Please, let's not get back into "as a player" and "my character". Assume it happens to an NPC as part of background for setting a scene, because the DM thinks it will be funny and amuse the players. I don't know why I should have to explicitly state that every time. Why does something like this need a rule? The DM is merely amusing the players. Perhaps the heroes are reviewing the town guard before setting out on a quest, and to emphasize the inexperience and ineptitude of the guard (thus making it clear how the safety of the town rests on the shoulders of the PCs) one of the 17 year old guardsmen ends up getting dragged along the ground by his horse. [/QUOTE]

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