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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6550937" data-attributes="member: 8835">I think Umbran might have hit upon a problem with the example (which may be as a GM ran it).If all I am told is that I open the door and see in the room a skeleton that appears to be floating in the middle of the room, what I expected to know as a player from that, or expected to roll for as my PC?Am I supposed to ask if it is suspended from a rope, or should the GM have said that given it would be obviousAm I supposed to ask if there is an energy field around it, apparently causing the levitation?Am I supposed to ask if there is a gelatinous haze surrounding it in a 3' radius (the ooze)?For a player, isn't the GM supposed to say obvious stuff like that?&nbsp; If so, then the player only heard &quot;levitating skeleton in the middle of the room&quot; and assumed that it was a lich or something and was rolling knowledge checks to identify the creature.Which is why the situation had &quot;gotcha&quot; all over it.&nbsp; A gelatinous ooze would have a surface that would be apparent (reflective of light, looks a bit &quot;wet&quot;) that should have been part of the description.&nbsp; Rolls or no rolls.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6550937, member: 8835"] I think Umbran might have hit upon a problem with the example (which may be as a GM ran it). If all I am told is that I open the door and see in the room a skeleton that appears to be floating in the middle of the room, what I expected to know as a player from that, or expected to roll for as my PC? Am I supposed to ask if it is suspended from a rope, or should the GM have said that given it would be obvious Am I supposed to ask if there is an energy field around it, apparently causing the levitation? Am I supposed to ask if there is a gelatinous haze surrounding it in a 3' radius (the ooze)? For a player, isn't the GM supposed to say obvious stuff like that? If so, then the player only heard "levitating skeleton in the middle of the room" and assumed that it was a lich or something and was rolling knowledge checks to identify the creature. Which is why the situation had "gotcha" all over it. A gelatinous ooze would have a surface that would be apparent (reflective of light, looks a bit "wet") that should have been part of the description. Rolls or no rolls. [/QUOTE]

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