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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8435494" data-attributes="member: 86653">Mostly just tired of the silly attempts at point scoring and gotchas some people do.The longer I play the less I like the idea of levels. It seems like an okay mechanic to regulate gaining power, but it also limits the content the characters can work through. Unless the DM puts in a lot of work to make the content level appropriate. Like you'd really like to run through some module but it's either too high or too low a level.Level caps, for those editions that have them, are fairly limiting. Gearing the whole of the game around gaining level (power) then asking people to play without gaining any power after a certain point seems counter to the whole notion of level. Alternately, you could have characters simply stop gaining experience points and levels at some arbitrary point, say 5th level or 10th level. But again, most players want that power progression.People generally try to win debates, they don't try to win conversations. Even if that's the only difference (I don't think it is), it's a rather substantial one.</blockquote>