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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3999638" data-attributes="member: 158">By my recollection, didn't the Fellowship fight Nazgul, Balrogs, Uruk-hai (basically levelled orcs), ghosts, oliphants, cave trolls, and God knows what else? That stuff would have definitely levelled the group up quite a bit (even Frodo and Sam got some orc and Shelob action, in addition to the Balrog, the barrow wights, and other things).The former, because it's already supported in the XP awards section of the 3.5 DMG. Whether you kill the minotaur, sneak past him, or sell him Amway and become his buddy, you're overcoming his challenge.In 1E and 2E, I'd kind of agree with you -- but in 3E, the skills system, as well as the stuff for winning friends and influencing people among beguilers, bards, and the like made a totally non-combat group a possible option in the game. I'm only hoping 4E can perform the same trick, even if the classes are more geared towards usefulness in combat at all stages.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 3999638, member: 158"] By my recollection, didn't the Fellowship fight Nazgul, Balrogs, Uruk-hai (basically levelled orcs), ghosts, oliphants, cave trolls, and God knows what else? That stuff would have definitely levelled the group up quite a bit (even Frodo and Sam got some orc and Shelob action, in addition to the Balrog, the barrow wights, and other things). The former, because it's already supported in the XP awards section of the 3.5 DMG. Whether you kill the minotaur, sneak past him, or sell him Amway and become his buddy, you're overcoming his challenge. In 1E and 2E, I'd kind of agree with you -- but in 3E, the skills system, as well as the stuff for winning friends and influencing people among beguilers, bards, and the like made a totally non-combat group a possible option in the game. I'm only hoping 4E can perform the same trick, even if the classes are more geared towards usefulness in combat at all stages. [/QUOTE]

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