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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 4000514" data-attributes="member: 1457">I was totally with you until these bits about 4E destroying life as we know it. Looking at what we've actually seen of the game so far, I think 4E will be a critical and commercial success. I understand that there's a reflexive negative reaction to the fact that devs looked at WoW and tried to understand why that game is so compelling, but I think that's a *good* thing--no product exists in a vacuum. And MMORPGS will never completely destroy "the hobby." People still get together for poker night, even though online poker is better at shuffling the cards and making sure everyone antes up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>