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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4002676" data-attributes="member: 22779">Just to add to Pemerton's point.&nbsp; Never mind the flavor inherent in the implied setting of 3e, take a look on the general board at the rather large number of threads talking about how to change the basic assumptions of 3e - wealth by level, demographics, &quot;magic walmart&quot; (<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).&nbsp; Those setting elements are hard wired into the system.&nbsp; Change the wealth by level assumptions and CR goes wonky.&nbsp; Take away magic item trade and a whole number of assumptions inherent in the system get tipped over.While I don't say that 3e defaults to high magic; I believe that's a mistaken assumption, it does default to a very specific level of magic.&nbsp; It also defaults to having the Core 4 roles- tank, blaster, healer, scout, existent in every party.I think it's a mistake to say that 3e was this wide open toolkit.&nbsp; The vast number of games out there that tweak the d20 mechanics in order to fit a particular genre shows that it won't do it out of the box.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4002676, member: 22779"] Just to add to Pemerton's point. Never mind the flavor inherent in the implied setting of 3e, take a look on the general board at the rather large number of threads talking about how to change the basic assumptions of 3e - wealth by level, demographics, "magic walmart" (;) ). Those setting elements are hard wired into the system. Change the wealth by level assumptions and CR goes wonky. Take away magic item trade and a whole number of assumptions inherent in the system get tipped over. While I don't say that 3e defaults to high magic; I believe that's a mistaken assumption, it does default to a very specific level of magic. It also defaults to having the Core 4 roles- tank, blaster, healer, scout, existent in every party. I think it's a mistake to say that 3e was this wide open toolkit. The vast number of games out there that tweak the d20 mechanics in order to fit a particular genre shows that it won't do it out of the box. [/QUOTE]

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