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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 3387086" data-attributes="member: 3854">Sorry, I was in a rush then. That was a series of quotes from 7 different posters in the "How often do you cheat" thread.So it's not an extreme example, it is many examples of a common theme I see in many threads here.Although I was rushed when I made this thread, I wasn't trying to set up a strawman or any other false premise. I think some folks are misreading me -- I think you are misunderstanding what I'm meaning by "story".I'm not saying that "gamers" don't have stories in their games. I like stories in my games. But to me, D&D is a game first -- the story comes from the play. If the PCs all TPK against the BBEG, that is the story.Yes, that's what I'm talking about.I'm not saying or suggesting with the questions that one is better than the other. (I personally do have a preference, though.) I thought I asked in a perfectly neutral way, but I guess I didn't. I thought I explained my meaning well in later posts, but I guess I didn't.I fully agree that you can tell a story and play a game at the same time. My question was which part of the equation comes first:Story concerns trump game concerns. (For example: A PC can't die before an appropriate time for the story.)Game concerns trump story concerns. (For example: A PC dying anytime becomes part of the story.)I'm really tired and sleepy right now, so I hope I didn't just muddy my questions more.Quasqueton</blockquote>