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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6428956" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I believe that there would not be the same type of divide... some people would have switched early (group A) some people would see group A having fun and switch (group B) others would stay with 3 a while, but get sick of no new upgrades and make there way over the next year or so to 4e (group C), and others would remain in 3.5(group D)... I gurantee you that more people would have been in BOTH B and C groups without pathfinder... (well more in D too but that isn't helping in my case).</p><p></p><p>If there was no pathfinder I honestly believe I would have had twice the number of players for my second 4e game. </p><p></p><p>The real Jerk behavior didn't start until Piazo put out the beta playtest... someone (I think it was Jim) found a bunch of posters on one of the boards that had this very huge hate of anything WotC, saying they were sell outs and destroying D&D, and that Piazo was the true spiritual holder of D&D... and some of that group took that to heart. I can't imagine a scenero where that split happens without pathfinder... around the same time Ross got into that argument at Gen COn, and he and Kurt were venemusly anti pathfinder... that lead to a clash...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6428956, member: 67338"] I believe that there would not be the same type of divide... some people would have switched early (group A) some people would see group A having fun and switch (group B) others would stay with 3 a while, but get sick of no new upgrades and make there way over the next year or so to 4e (group C), and others would remain in 3.5(group D)... I gurantee you that more people would have been in BOTH B and C groups without pathfinder... (well more in D too but that isn't helping in my case). If there was no pathfinder I honestly believe I would have had twice the number of players for my second 4e game. The real Jerk behavior didn't start until Piazo put out the beta playtest... someone (I think it was Jim) found a bunch of posters on one of the boards that had this very huge hate of anything WotC, saying they were sell outs and destroying D&D, and that Piazo was the true spiritual holder of D&D... and some of that group took that to heart. I can't imagine a scenero where that split happens without pathfinder... around the same time Ross got into that argument at Gen COn, and he and Kurt were venemusly anti pathfinder... that lead to a clash... [/QUOTE]
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