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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lu Wei Fong" data-source="post: 1617095" data-attributes="member: 15954">Ok, I feel like I've got to defend the "immature" "fresh out of high school guys" a bit here  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I DM a group of 8 players (who are rarely all there). I am "Fresh out of High school", and all the players are either fresh out or still in high school. 5 of the players are guys and 3 are girls (and one of the guys plays a girl... half-orc... druid with old-man's beard growing on her face... who the old sky elf -our only character death- had a huge crush on... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> ) Anyways, I would like to point out that aside from the obvious joking around and having fun, it is an incredibly mature group who doesn't even make an issue of gender. In fact, one of the girls plays a wood-elf fighter with a strength score of 20 (at level 4) who can push or drag 2,000 lbs. She seriously just wades through the enemies, it's almsot funny to watch (and infuriating to try and challenge, as a DM  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) The best part is, no one cares one whit about gender, they just have a good time <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />     Anyways, some people have been pointing to your gaming groups' age as the reason for their immaturity, and yet we're a large group of that age who's very mature. It's the same thing as generalizing all guys as sexist or all girls as sex nymphs. My point is this: lots of people love making generalizations and lumping huge groups of people under those generalizations without even knowing them. Everyone is different, and that's the most important thing to remember when dealing with them. You happened to meet some guys who sound like sexist jerks. Please don't let that color your opinion of the whole sex (not implying that you are <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). There's plenty of mature, respectful people out there, of all ages and geners and colors and sizes and hair styles and fashions and so on, it's just a matter of finding them   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />     Best of luck to you!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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