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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kanegrundar" data-source="post: 2179382" data-attributes="member: 3913">I gotta say something here.  I AM A GEEK!!!  However, that is not all that I am.  I play computer games, D&D, love watching and reading fantasy and sci-fi, paint minis, play board games, and love talking about my hobbies with anyone that will listen.  I have some geeky Star Wars shirts and have strage tastes in music.  At the same time, I don't wear those shirts to work or out to the bar.  I dress nice, shower daily, enjoy the occasional beer and cigar.  I love playing and watching baseball and golf.  Football and Nascar chews up most of my Sundays.  I'm overweight, but I still get out and hike, go camping, hunting, fishing, or find something to do outside in the fresh air.  These are all parts of me, but I still find ways to get past my initial fear of being in public and meeting new people.  I've ran into people that think my hobbies are wierd, but I don't catch any flak about it because I dress nice and present myself as well as I can (I still don't style my hair, though, just never figured it out).It sounds like you're painting yourself into a corner.  All you're putting out there is GEEK!  However, dressing nice and smelling nice doesn't make you someone you're not.  That's all part of being part of a society.  First impressions only come once, and if you give one of a slob dork, then that's likely what people will think of you further on.  It may not be nice or even the right thing to do, but that's the way they are.  You can either make an attempt to look like someone others will like to know, or you can be left to the fringes of society.  Plus, broaden your horizons.  There are gamer girls out there, but they aren't so prolific that you can count on finding one that is into it without you convincing her to try.  My fiance never played a game, but once I got her to try.  She still doesn't really like it, but she has found a couple board games she likes and will play with me every now and then.  However, if I didn't have other interests beyond gaming or even display the willingness to listen to her interests that I really am not into, I wouldn't have gotten the chance to introduce her to gaming in the first place.  You don't have to like or be involved in sports or mainstream movies and music, but you should still be able to carry on a conversation about something other than the new D&D book.  I'm totally with Teflon BIlly on this one.  Being a smelly slob is NEVER a source of pride.  You can always find time to get some nicer clothes for work or bite the bullet and take a 5 minute shower.  Heck, I was in a gaming group in college that had a player that was asked to leave due to his horrendous hygiene issues.  I felt bad for the guy, but he thought that showering would change him from a "rebel" to a mainstream "sheep".  Yeah, well, that was absolutely stupid.  If he wanted to be around others, at least he should have tired to look and smell like it.  He continued being himself, but he did it alone.Kane</blockquote>

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