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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9766938" data-attributes="member: 52734"><p>[USER=5889]@Stalker0[/USER] </p><p></p><p>On <em>Fabricate</em>, a few things...</p><p></p><p>1) "You also can’t use it to create items that ordinarily require a high degree of craftsmanship, such as jewelry, weapons, glass, or armor, unless you have proficiency with the type of artisan’s tools used to craft such objects" - Unless the wizard has a tool proficiency in the sort of item being created, it is going to be of somewhat crude or basic design. It's unlikely the wizard is going to have more than two tool proficiency at that.</p><p></p><p>2) Rarity of the Wizard - 2E's DM's Option - High Level Campaigns gave some thought to the demographics of how common a character of a given level would be in a standard D&D game world. At a 7th level character class, it notes that for a population of 1 million (quite a high number for "Medieval" world*) there would be 2,080 7th level characters (<strong>.</strong>208%). With 12 base character classes and only one class able to cast Fabricate (not counting Forge Cleric as that's a single subclass of Cleric, so a singular subfaction), that reduces it to about 173 Wizards out of 1 million (probably less, as only a subset of those would have the <em>Fabricate - </em>there are 23 spells of 4th level in the PHB after all, and a 7th level wizard probably will only have one, maybe two 4th level spells prepared) or <strong>.</strong>0173% of the population. Factoring in a 2-in-23 chance of having <em>Fabricate</em>, that would reduce it to 86 Wizards in 1 million, or <strong>.</strong>0086%. You probably have a better chance of winning the lottery.</p><p></p><p>3) At 7th level, the Wizard can only use this spell once per day, though certainly more at higher level - but the chances of finding such an individual half for each additional class level. That assumes a Wizard who wants to make this a profession (I find it difficult to believe someone whose devoted their life to bending reality to use it just to make "common" items for a mundane populace, but that is just my opinion); there is likely to be a backlog of requests and a commensurate cost for the work due to limited access to the Wizard.</p><p></p><p>While in theory it looks easy for a Wizard to replace craftsmen, a deeper looks makes it unlikely it would be so. They could certainly supplement such craftsmanship, though.</p><p></p><p>(As a point of comparison of skilled craftsmen at work, at it's height comparatively in the real world around in the BC era, the city of Carthage could produce two warships <em>per day</em>, though that did involve a labor force and took advantage of shipbuilding standardization.)</p><p></p><p>* Waterdeep only has a standing population of ~132,000 people, with upwards of ~1.3 million adding in the surrounding lands around the city. If you aren't near a fairly large city ... good luck finding a single Wizard with <em>Fabricate</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 9766938, member: 52734"] [USER=5889]@Stalker0[/USER] On [I]Fabricate[/I], a few things... 1) "You also can’t use it to create items that ordinarily require a high degree of craftsmanship, such as jewelry, weapons, glass, or armor, unless you have proficiency with the type of artisan’s tools used to craft such objects" - Unless the wizard has a tool proficiency in the sort of item being created, it is going to be of somewhat crude or basic design. It's unlikely the wizard is going to have more than two tool proficiency at that. 2) Rarity of the Wizard - 2E's DM's Option - High Level Campaigns gave some thought to the demographics of how common a character of a given level would be in a standard D&D game world. At a 7th level character class, it notes that for a population of 1 million (quite a high number for "Medieval" world*) there would be 2,080 7th level characters ([B].[/B]208%). With 12 base character classes and only one class able to cast Fabricate (not counting Forge Cleric as that's a single subclass of Cleric, so a singular subfaction), that reduces it to about 173 Wizards out of 1 million (probably less, as only a subset of those would have the [I]Fabricate - [/I]there are 23 spells of 4th level in the PHB after all, and a 7th level wizard probably will only have one, maybe two 4th level spells prepared) or [B].[/B]0173% of the population. Factoring in a 2-in-23 chance of having [I]Fabricate[/I], that would reduce it to 86 Wizards in 1 million, or [B].[/B]0086%. You probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. 3) At 7th level, the Wizard can only use this spell once per day, though certainly more at higher level - but the chances of finding such an individual half for each additional class level. That assumes a Wizard who wants to make this a profession (I find it difficult to believe someone whose devoted their life to bending reality to use it just to make "common" items for a mundane populace, but that is just my opinion); there is likely to be a backlog of requests and a commensurate cost for the work due to limited access to the Wizard. While in theory it looks easy for a Wizard to replace craftsmen, a deeper looks makes it unlikely it would be so. They could certainly supplement such craftsmanship, though. (As a point of comparison of skilled craftsmen at work, at it's height comparatively in the real world around in the BC era, the city of Carthage could produce two warships [I]per day[/I], though that did involve a labor force and took advantage of shipbuilding standardization.) * Waterdeep only has a standing population of ~132,000 people, with upwards of ~1.3 million adding in the surrounding lands around the city. If you aren't near a fairly large city ... good luck finding a single Wizard with [I]Fabricate[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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