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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2761497" data-attributes="member: 19675">There are lots of minor games that turned me off- I won't bother to list them here.But the 3 MAJOR games that turned me off are M:TG, GURPS, and the White Wolf line.First, M:TG...I love this game (HUH?)I played it from the days of the Alpha release up until 6th Edition.  I got turned off by the increasingly idiotic rules changes on how powers worked, banning cards that weren't broken (but were part of a broken combo), and most annoyingly, the continued introduction of cards that were immediately recognizable as broken.I still play, but I don't buy cards anymore, and I don't compete in tourneys, either.GURPS.  Despite claiming to be a Generic Universal Role Playing System, I found it not to be Generic nor Universal.  I played in an Austin game group that played a lot of different RPGs including a lot of GURPS because a couple of the guys in the group were regular SJG playtesters.Every time we tried a new GURPS campaign, we had to deal with new, setting-specific rules variants- some were quite fundamental shifts.  Some abilities were also ridiculously underpowered or overpowered.  I remember trying to play a telekinetic PC.  He was expensive AND ineffective under the basic GURPS rules.  If I had been able to use GURPS Supers (or whatever it was) he would have been more in line with the power of the other PCs in the group...but that supplement wasn't available for the setting.I understand that 4th Ed has improved greatly upon the previous editions of the game, but, at this point, I'm not touching it unless someone asks me to play.White Wolf...I love the games themselves- good flavor with an acceptible system.  Why do I hate the line?  Because they don't integrate their products.  We tried mixing Mages with Werewolves and Vampires...it just didn't work.The new editions may be more compatible with each other, but I'm not spending my dollars to find out.</blockquote>

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