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<blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 2431763" data-attributes="member: 264">I'll stand by my comment.I do think that ruining suspension of disbelief in a campaign with the same &quot;Whitey Suburban Fake Mall Gangsta&quot; posturing (the same posturing the players in question clearly engage in day-in and day-out) is &quot;just another--and equally valid--way to play&quot; even when it doesn't mesh with any of the character prep or campaign material they've been shown thus far...then yes, that is rank stupidity.Other terms that might apply: &quot;goofy&quot;, &quot;Lame&quot;, &quot;Pathetic&quot;, &quot;Uncreative&quot;Any of these apply.And to defend the behavior (&quot;Well, it's a game of Star Trek, but this guy wants to play a Rodeo Clown. Perfectly Valid!--if different--Star Trek fun!&quot;) Is equally nonesensical.It's about expectations. If I'm runnning a D&amp;D campaign (and I am) and I present you with a selection of vaguly medieval Cultures, Races and Politcal groups around which to base your character (and I will) and you (like half of your peers before you) come back with a thinly disguised version of Eminem (with a little Dre tossed in for cred) then the problem is, I'm afraid, with you.If you come to a game and that's the only character you can manage to come up with, I'm guessing &quot;all the girlies say you're pretty fly for a white guy&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Teflon Billy, post: 2431763, member: 264"] I'll stand by my comment. I [i]do[/i] think that ruining suspension of disbelief in a campaign with the same "Whitey Suburban Fake Mall Gangsta" posturing (the same posturing the players in question clearly engage in day-in and day-out) is "just another--and equally valid--way to play" even when it doesn't mesh with any of the character prep or campaign material they've been shown thus far...then yes, [i]that[/i] is rank stupidity. Other terms that might apply: "goofy", "Lame", "Pathetic", "Uncreative" Any of these apply. And to defend the behavior ("Well, it's a game of Star Trek, but this guy wants to play a Rodeo Clown. Perfectly Valid!--if different--Star Trek fun!") Is equally nonesensical. It's about expectations. If I'm runnning a D&D campaign (and I am) and I present you with a selection of vaguly medieval Cultures, Races and Politcal groups around which to base your character (and I will) and you (like half of your peers before you) come back with a thinly disguised version of Eminem (with a little Dre tossed in for cred) then the problem is, I'm afraid, with you. If you come to a game and that's the [I]only [/I]character you can manage to come up with, I'm guessing "all the girlies say you're pretty fly for a white guy" :) [/QUOTE]

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