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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 159602" data-attributes="member: 96"><p>I'm sorry...there are a lot of good arguments for GF but this is not one of them. Yeah, it might be worth only $5 to someone who doesn't play in OA or Rokugan...but they're not the target audience, and nobody expects them to buy the book at $25. (I didn't.) To someone who does play OA, it's worth a lot more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd have been happier with it if it had been $5 cheaper and in B&W. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I wouldn't have changed Minions though - color pics of monsters are always nice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hope you don't mind me emphasizing the above, but it is the key to the problems a lot of people have, I think. It is a less focused set of material.</p><p></p><p>If I buy Magic of Rokugan, it's because I'm running a Rokugan game. That makes the entire book useful. I'm paying $25 for 96 pages.</p><p></p><p>If GF had a short article on Rokugan magic, and a bunch of articles on other stuff that I would never use in my Rokugan game, I am probably not going to pay $20 for it, because the amount of use I am getting out of it is much less - I'm effectively paying $20 for the 6 pages I will use.</p><p></p><p>That's the danger of having a wide variety of material in your $20 publication - at that price point, you are competing with focused sourcebooks for your customers' money, and those focused sourcebooks have the advantage of the whole thing being appealing to the person interested in them, instead of just some of the material. You have to measure whether the breadth of the material will add enough appeal to counteract the fact that many people aren't going to impulse buy a $20 product for one or two articles that interest them. You have to convince me that I'd rather buy the $20 'mixed bag' instead of the $20 focused sourcebook.</p><p></p><p>If it was a $10 mixed bag - and I'm sure there's no way they could put it out at that price, this is just an example - people would be more inclined to grab it. They're risking less on the chance that they will be able to use the other stuff.</p><p></p><p>I'll also note in passing that the inclusion of editorials, reviews, and columns does nothing to dispel the "this is a magazine" image.</p><p></p><p>J</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 159602, member: 96"] I'm sorry...there are a lot of good arguments for GF but this is not one of them. Yeah, it might be worth only $5 to someone who doesn't play in OA or Rokugan...but they're not the target audience, and nobody expects them to buy the book at $25. (I didn't.) To someone who does play OA, it's worth a lot more. I'd have been happier with it if it had been $5 cheaper and in B&W. :D I wouldn't have changed Minions though - color pics of monsters are always nice. Hope you don't mind me emphasizing the above, but it is the key to the problems a lot of people have, I think. It is a less focused set of material. If I buy Magic of Rokugan, it's because I'm running a Rokugan game. That makes the entire book useful. I'm paying $25 for 96 pages. If GF had a short article on Rokugan magic, and a bunch of articles on other stuff that I would never use in my Rokugan game, I am probably not going to pay $20 for it, because the amount of use I am getting out of it is much less - I'm effectively paying $20 for the 6 pages I will use. That's the danger of having a wide variety of material in your $20 publication - at that price point, you are competing with focused sourcebooks for your customers' money, and those focused sourcebooks have the advantage of the whole thing being appealing to the person interested in them, instead of just some of the material. You have to measure whether the breadth of the material will add enough appeal to counteract the fact that many people aren't going to impulse buy a $20 product for one or two articles that interest them. You have to convince me that I'd rather buy the $20 'mixed bag' instead of the $20 focused sourcebook. If it was a $10 mixed bag - and I'm sure there's no way they could put it out at that price, this is just an example - people would be more inclined to grab it. They're risking less on the chance that they will be able to use the other stuff. I'll also note in passing that the inclusion of editorials, reviews, and columns does nothing to dispel the "this is a magazine" image. J [/QUOTE]
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