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<blockquote data-quote="GamingFrontiersRob" data-source="post: 163156" data-attributes="member: 3874"><p>Capt. Kantrip said: I notice there is now talk of the possibility of changing GF's format in the future, so that appears (at least to me) that there was merit (foresight?) in the arguments presented here by myself and others.</p><p></p><p>No merit, sir. It was a hypothetical discussion. In addition to the thrill of being a part of the gaming market and making my hobby my profession, I'm in this ultimately to make money. If changing format would increase readership thus turn a bigger profit I'm all for it. If you must know, while we aren't getting rich, we're selling product and paying bills.</p><p></p><p>A theme issue is very dificult. The publishers that submit content to me do so with great effort on their part. Some write articles specifically to be placed in Gaming Frontiers. Case in point: we have some great new nautical stuff from Living Imagination that adds to Broadsides! This was created AFTER the book was released. The d20 publishers have their own products and agendas. If I started dictating themes I beleive the general response would be "sounds cool but I don't have the time." </p><p></p><p>So you say make themes from publishers with similar content. First, how many truly have comparable material? Everyone finds their own niche and expands on it. After Nautical rules how many themes can you really think of that fit this bill before you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for lame ideas? Second, I picture this degenerating into a fierce comparison. "Their stuff is better than theirs. This article is really helpful but this one is just fluff." The competition would be too fierce when displayed next to each other.</p><p></p><p>I would like to say we have a new column entitled "face-off" where we compare like products in a review-type fashion. The subjects are the three nautical books. This, to me, works but only fills up a page.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The online market is generally small at best. I have a friend in the business that had, and still has I believe, a top ten selling pdf for months. He just broke 200 sales. 200! We printed 10,000 copies of Gaming Frontiers Volume 1. That is a huge spread. Could we make money selling pdf's? Yes, but I couldn't quit my day job even if we were a hit.</p><p></p><p>If I am wrong about these numbers please correct me. I don't think I am. Just look at the publishers. How many print publishers release pdf's versus how many don't. The number is very high in the don't column. The people that create pdf product generally don't have the money to go to print (but wish they did) or are amateurs slapping stuff together. I don't mean to offend anyone in the online market, I know that there is some quality stuff out there available exclusively in pdf but I feel that these are the exception and not the rule.</p><p></p><p>Robert J. Williams</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GamingFrontiersRob, post: 163156, member: 3874"] Capt. Kantrip said: I notice there is now talk of the possibility of changing GF's format in the future, so that appears (at least to me) that there was merit (foresight?) in the arguments presented here by myself and others. No merit, sir. It was a hypothetical discussion. In addition to the thrill of being a part of the gaming market and making my hobby my profession, I'm in this ultimately to make money. If changing format would increase readership thus turn a bigger profit I'm all for it. If you must know, while we aren't getting rich, we're selling product and paying bills. A theme issue is very dificult. The publishers that submit content to me do so with great effort on their part. Some write articles specifically to be placed in Gaming Frontiers. Case in point: we have some great new nautical stuff from Living Imagination that adds to Broadsides! This was created AFTER the book was released. The d20 publishers have their own products and agendas. If I started dictating themes I beleive the general response would be "sounds cool but I don't have the time." So you say make themes from publishers with similar content. First, how many truly have comparable material? Everyone finds their own niche and expands on it. After Nautical rules how many themes can you really think of that fit this bill before you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for lame ideas? Second, I picture this degenerating into a fierce comparison. "Their stuff is better than theirs. This article is really helpful but this one is just fluff." The competition would be too fierce when displayed next to each other. I would like to say we have a new column entitled "face-off" where we compare like products in a review-type fashion. The subjects are the three nautical books. This, to me, works but only fills up a page. The online market is generally small at best. I have a friend in the business that had, and still has I believe, a top ten selling pdf for months. He just broke 200 sales. 200! We printed 10,000 copies of Gaming Frontiers Volume 1. That is a huge spread. Could we make money selling pdf's? Yes, but I couldn't quit my day job even if we were a hit. If I am wrong about these numbers please correct me. I don't think I am. Just look at the publishers. How many print publishers release pdf's versus how many don't. The number is very high in the don't column. The people that create pdf product generally don't have the money to go to print (but wish they did) or are amateurs slapping stuff together. I don't mean to offend anyone in the online market, I know that there is some quality stuff out there available exclusively in pdf but I feel that these are the exception and not the rule. Robert J. Williams [/QUOTE]
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