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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnNephew" data-source="post: 170320" data-attributes="member: 2171">There's a big difference between "Virtually no one" and "no one."  It's fair to say that, in terms of the total D&D players out there, virtually none have ever bought one of our Penumbra D20 books.  However, as it happens, the difference between "virtually none" and "none" is enough for us to run a business.  Lacking actual sales figures, I would not personally leap to the conclusion that I know the facts better than the people who actually have the numbers at their fingertips.  Perhaps your mileage varies.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As for the real world -- nah, not really.  I've spent my entire professional career cocooned in the game industry, so all that real world stuff is just strange and baffling to me.  I just rely on rolling dice and asking my magic eight ball for all decisions.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> You speak with considerable certainty.  Which distributor do you work for, and what is your print buying and publishing experience, such that you know what percentage of people buy the magazine, what the total figures are, and how the revenues generated compare to the costs of the magazine?  I'd love to see you roll out a spreadsheet to prove your allegations.  To be honest, you just sound like someone who wants to get your stuff for cheaper.  (In which case, look on eBay!  I'm sure used copies will be there for a fraction of cover price.)Maybe you guys are right and they'll fail horribly.  Personally, I've watched "anyone with business sense" boldly declare that, for instance, Magic: the Gathering was going to flop in a hurry.  In the meantime, it's their investment, their risk, and their reward if their efforts work.  Given that other formulas for magazine-format publishing have failed consistently, I stand by my praise for their willingness to try a different approach.  Progress rests on people who are willing to challenge assumptions -- especially failed assumptions.</blockquote>

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